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00:01:40So, football at the forefront. Of course, Kevin Muscat is the main talking point. He's not

00:01:45coming. Danny Roll has rolled into Glasgow. Is he going to be unveiled as the new manager

00:01:50or is there yet to be another hitch that we haven't seen? And over and above that, the Honda

00:01:56Civic Celtic get battered by the Fiat 500 Dundee. We'll discuss that with the guys. Hearts are

00:02:02five points clear at the top. Could it happen? Could we see Tam in a full hearts kit? It's

00:02:09looking good, Ruffy. It's looking good. Five points clear.

00:02:12Yeah, I'll look even better if it's eight points at the weekend.

00:02:17It is absolutely incredible. I mean, nobody would have seen this coming. And of course,

00:02:27we will, again, talk about VAR. There's some decisions at the weekend that are interesting

00:02:32to talk about. So, let's get to the meat and bones of it all. Alec, you've seen more than

00:02:39a few surprises down through the years at Rangers. Is this one...

00:02:43It's right up there.

00:02:44Did it surprise you? Is it right up there?

00:02:45No, it's right up there. The way that this has actually played out has been painful for

00:02:50everyone involved with Rangers. It's played far too much out in the media. You know,

00:02:55there will always be speculation, but it's almost as if the Rangers fans have been strung

00:02:59along. Firstly, Stephen, Gerrard, and then obviously at the weekend, one week down the

00:03:03line, your muscat. It looked as if it was more or less done and dusted. And then the guy

00:03:08who took his cell out of the running last week now looks as if he's a front runner. So,

00:03:12the way this has actually played out has actually been a bit of a shambles, really. And

00:03:16when you factor in that this guy's obviously kind of ruled his cell out last week, it's

00:03:23going to be the new gaffer getting into this weekend by the looks of things. You then think

00:03:28to yourself, how does this play out with the Rangers following? You know, on the back of

00:03:32the debacle of Russell Martin, who was in the wrong movie, the recruitment process, and

00:03:38now you have Stevie Smith taking the team at the weekend. By all accounts, the first half

00:03:43was really impressive. Second half, back to basics, they've been producing of late.

00:03:48So, you've got a discontented fan base with a manager who probably is the last man standing.

00:03:55So, all in all, I think it's played out really poorly.

00:03:59I don't think I could have put it any better myself.

00:04:01No, I'm sure you could have.

00:04:02Quite simply. No, because I think the other thing about it is, you know what Glasgow's like,

00:04:08there's a bit of to-ing and fro-ing with the banter. But the point here, looking at a club

00:04:13professionally, is quite simply that this is painful for Rangers fans. And also, you have

00:04:19a situation where, with each game that there's no manager there, Ruffy, the league title, which

00:04:24everybody considered slipping away, and they're not really in contention for it. But over and

00:04:29above that, you've got people who've paid a lot of hard-earned money. They're not happy

00:04:34with what they're watching. They're being fed that this guy's coming in, that guy's

00:04:37coming in. You've got podcasters all over the place giving you, you know, their version

00:04:43of the truth. And undoubtedly, you have a club that many a manager would have walked

00:04:50over broken glass to join Rangers and take them on in the 90s. But now, in 2025, you've

00:04:57got Kevin Muscat, who's not coming right away, and that doesn't suit anybody. So that's

00:05:01where the whole deal collapses. That's really the crux of the matter. Can you

00:05:06come now? Rangers want you now. No.

00:05:09Yeah, I think that's obviously where it was. Obviously, they'd had a meeting, and

00:05:13that was what they'd said. Look, we want you right away. And he's probably said,

00:05:17like, I want to go away and think about it. And obviously, he's come back and said,

00:05:20no, I'm doing particularly well here. I could win another league title. You know,

00:05:24and it's a no. And as Alex says, you know, it just doesn't look good, even for

00:05:29Steven Gerrard. That conversation must have went along the same lines as well, waiting

00:05:34at him making a decision. So they've now got a new guy coming in that, as Alex said,

00:05:39the fans have got to take to him. And the only way they're going to take to him is

00:05:42winning games.

00:05:42Sorry. See on this, what you're saying there about this whole situation, Peter. See,

00:05:49for me, I find it astonishing that we're actually talking about this, that, oh, Kevin

00:05:54Muscat, oh, you know, the timer of it all. Surely that takes place in the very early

00:05:58exchanges. Well, when can you come in?

00:06:00Yes.

00:06:01Do you know what I mean? Why are we two weeks down the road? Do you know what I mean?

00:06:03Steven Gerrard pulled out a couple of weeks ago, Muscat had a whole week to lead in,

00:06:07and then it takes that long to actually fall into place. I'm sitting here going to

00:06:10myself, surely these conversations with agents, because this must have all taken

00:06:14place prior to Russell Martin getting bumped. Because we all know how this works. I told

00:06:21you this story a couple of weeks ago that I get interviewed for a job while there was

00:06:26somebody still in situ. Do you know what I mean? And it happens. And this is the way

00:06:31people operate now. You look at Knott's Forest as well, it looks as if they're almost going

00:06:36to put someone right away. That's because discussions have already taken place. The

00:06:39parameters have all been kind of laid out before you actually go, we're bumping him,

00:06:43and we're bringing Tam in. So I just find it astonishing that they're at that late stage

00:06:47that that's the stumbling block.

00:06:48Yeah, the other aspect of this, which, and I'm not capping back to it, is if it's the

00:06:54halcyon days and the glory days of how it should be done, because obviously David Murray

00:07:00was at the forefront of Rangers' demise, and a lot of Rangers fans don't look on him with

00:07:05any great affection. But the one thing that he did do in his early days when he was there

00:07:11and he was calling the shots, and the same I could say for David Holmes under Lawrence

00:07:16Malborough. Deal, this is what's on offer. This is what you'll be paid. This is what

00:07:22you're going to have as a kitty to spend. Go out and do it. Get the deal done. It goes

00:07:26to what Alex is saying there. This has turned into an embarrassment. And also the other aspect

00:07:31that we haven't even got to the point of the stature of Danny Roll and whether he is just

00:07:36another Russell Martin. But the whole way it's been handled, they've gone from one debacle

00:07:41to the next. Interestingly enough, and the reason why I mentioned David Murray, is that

00:07:44I caught maybe a TikTok or some short little clip from him over the last six or seven days

00:07:52when he said, basically, if he'd been in charge, Van Bronkos wouldn't have been sacked. He would

00:07:58have given him to the end of the season. He says, this is a guy who led Rangers to a European

00:08:02final. And suddenly, you know, they're bulleting him just because certain results are not going

00:08:06well in a period. He said that the decisions with too many people with too many irons in

00:08:12the fire prompted his demise. And now you've got a situation where you've got a new board

00:08:17in. They've got people there that the Rangers fans are definitely not happy with. And these

00:08:23guys are making decisions which at this moment look as if there's no clear pattern to it.

00:08:26No, there isn't. And I think when you look at Rangers over the piece at the minute, I

00:08:31don't think it's that attractive a job, Peter. Rangers job at the minute. I think when you

00:08:35look at Russell Martin, as long as he lasted a couple of months, the problem's off the field

00:08:39with the board. The guy's picking the manager. I think if you're a manager looking at the

00:08:44job now and you're thinking, is that a great job to get into now for Rangers? I don't think

00:08:47it is, Peter. And I think if it was, if it was different circumstances, Muscat would have

00:08:51been on the plane right away. I think he wants to see his time out there and then maybe

00:08:54see what's happening. But I think when you look at the squad of players that Rangers

00:08:57have got at the minute, obviously no scope to do anything until January. I don't think

00:09:02it's that attractive a job at the minute.

00:09:03I'll throw that back to you. Is this not the best time to get Rangers? When they've actually

00:09:06got one, one and eight? There's only one way you can go, surely.

00:09:09Well, the other thing about it which nobody is contemplating on this, and this goes back

00:09:13to the Gerrard situation where Rangers are not prepared to pay five million in tax for

00:09:19him. That's the first thing. So that deal collapses because nobody's going to pay his

00:09:23tax bill. The second part of it is quite simply, you don't know the circumstances

00:09:27over and above that, which have tied Kevin Muscat into something that has prompted him

00:09:33to say, well, I'm not leaving right away. If he's saying, I'm not leaving right away

00:09:37because on my terms, I want to finish the season in China, then you get to the point

00:09:43you say, well, I'm sorry, you're not going to be the Rangers manager. But they allowed it,

00:09:47as you said, to drag on a situation where you think...

00:09:51I think maybe four weeks ago, five weeks ago. Right at the start, as you said.

00:09:54But I don't know, the only thing you and I and everybody here doesn't know, and lots

00:09:58of people don't know, is what's the circumstances at Kevin Muscat's end?

00:10:03No, absolutely. But the thing is, see, I can understand from Muscat's point of view, I can

00:10:08understand why you're in a project and you're there, but the Rangers fans won't buy

00:10:11that, Peter. So you're like, wait, wait. And I don't mean this disrespectful because

00:10:15I don't really know the level over in China, but Rangers fans see their club as big and

00:10:19important and so forth. And when you get a rubber, the old days, a rubber ear, then

00:10:23you're going like, you're no day for us, you're not a guy to take us forward.

00:10:26Yeah. But that point should have been reached, as you mentioned, far, far earlier. And at

00:10:31the end of the day, roughly, regardless of anything else, whether it's a good time to

00:10:34get them or not, Rangers still have a standing where you say, Rangers want you to come and

00:10:39manage. You've been here before. Do you want to become the manager? Yes. Okay. Let's

00:10:44thrash it out of terms. Yeah, but the time's hit on the head. The Rangers' job and the size

00:10:50of the club that Alex is saying, you shouldn't be thinking about it. You wouldn't have been

00:10:53thinking about it five years ago. You'd be jumping at it. Give me it. Give me it right

00:10:57now. This is a massive club, massive support. Everything that goes with it. There are cups

00:11:02get won and leagues get won. So why wouldn't you go there and test? I don't get, you know,

00:11:07the way these people are thinking. They're thinking about themselves, not thinking about where

00:11:11they're going. I actually see the thing is, so you made a really interesting point there

00:11:16in terms of the previous board. There's four or five guys all calling shots. The actual

00:11:20running of the football club is a bit of a mess. You know what I mean? Because there's

00:11:24so many investors and everybody wants their point heard and they want to be respected at

00:11:30that top table. Whereas when it was Sir David, it was very much, I'm calling the shots. So

00:11:34it was a different dynamic. But see, when I look at Rangers now and I look at these guys

00:11:38with a pedigree over in the 49ers, they threw a hell of a lot of money at it. I think this

00:11:45is a perfect time to come in and try and build something and then try and get something going

00:11:49in the right direction. Clearly at the moment it's a bit of a mess. But if you have belief

00:11:53in what you're actually trying to do and you're going to get support for these guys and the

00:11:57fan base can see a progression on the pitch, then you've got a fighting chance because you're

00:12:02going to be backed and there's a bit of stability within the club as opposed to when we were

00:12:06there last year. There was no structure at all. So what I'm saying is you have a good

00:12:10structure, albeit the opening six months couldn't have went any worse for them. So they need

00:12:15to try and readdress that and get this right.

00:12:17It led to believe that the owners were going to give Gerard five years. He was going to get

00:12:21a five-year contract. So that tells you that they were going to persevere with what's happening

00:12:26and hoping it's going to get right.

00:12:28Yeah, but if they were going to give him a five-year contract...

00:12:29He's the only manager that would get time, I think. Stephen Gerrard.

00:12:33You know, the funny thing is, there are so many...

00:12:35Do you think Danny Rollo got a five-year deal?

00:12:37No, I don't. But I think as we move on to Danny Rollo, it's just as uninspiring as Russell

00:12:42Martin, I'm sorry to say. No harm to the boy. He's got Sheffield Wednesday to 12th. Well,

00:12:47whoop-de-doo. You know, at the end of the day, the reason why I think we all plumped for

00:12:52Muscat was because it was crying out for somebody with a CV that had winning...

00:12:57Trophies. Trophies. Had that point where you say to yourself...

00:13:01Now, Souness was a different scenario because Souness came in at a time when Scottish football

00:13:06couldn't spend the money that they were giving him. So he had a fighting chance to attract

00:13:11people. The other thing which a lot of people forget about in the Souness era and subsequently

00:13:16Walter Smith is English football was banned from European football.

00:13:19Get the England back four.

00:13:20It was easier to bring the England back four. So as time goes on and Celtic come out of their

00:13:25mess and then they eventually get Fergus McCannon, you get that competition. Now Rangers are

00:13:31looking and saying to themselves, well, Celtic are cash rich. So how are we going to destabilise

00:13:39a good coach in Brendan Rodgers, 13 out of 14 titles? We're going to have to go and get

00:13:44somebody with a CV who's used to winning, who understands maybe the club as a bonus, but

00:13:50is a good enough manager that can take Celtic on? That hasn't happened. Danny Rollo for me

00:13:54is just as bewildering as Russell Martin.

00:13:57He's not got a pedigree of winning trophies, Peter, as a manager. And that's the problem.

00:14:00I think when you're a Rangers manager, you've got to have some sort of pedigree, maybe even

00:14:04as a player, you've won a lot of trophies, you're Steven Gerrard. I think as a manager,

00:14:09you've got to get in there with a pedigree of having proven that you're a winner as a manager.

00:14:14He hasn't got that. And I don't think he's got that. I think he would be the same boat

00:14:17as Russell Martin.

00:14:17Sorry, do you know the interesting thing? And I'm going to, because I don't think it's

00:14:22the appointment of a Steven Gerrard, you know, or a Muscat in terms of trophies. I think

00:14:28we actually disregard the mid-table finish. I was privy to that actual Sheffield Wednesday

00:14:34situation. They were an absolute mess. The owners were threatening the fans, if you don't

00:14:38buy season tickets, we're going to choke the playing budget on us. It was just a real

00:14:43mess. And I had an interesting thing the other day with Barry Bannon. Now, you know, Russell

00:14:50Martin, I've got my philosophy. I'm going to play this particular way and I'm not for

00:14:54budging. This guy did budge. He has an expansive, wants to be high press, all the usual buzzwords.

00:15:00But he ended up going, we didn't have the players to play that. And what he did is he

00:15:04was pragmatic and he went like, you know what, we're going to go a little bit more back to

00:15:06front. We're going to play percentage game. And they started creeping up. So I quite like

00:15:10the fact that he is flexible enough to actually try and get them to where they need to get to

00:15:15with the personnel. And that might be the case currently with this group. Because

00:15:20they might not be able to play from the back and do it, but they have to find a way of

00:15:24winning, Peter. And that's the starting block for this group.

00:15:28As well as a good time to come into Rangers because they're poor, right, and they still

00:15:32have the old problems that have been there for the last year. Do you think that somebody

00:15:37has got to sit down at a press conference and say, listen, we said we didn't want to

00:15:42go through rinse and repeat. We're not going to do it this time. You're going to have to

00:15:47suck up for a couple of years the fact that Celtic or Hearts or whatever, I'm just throwing

00:15:52that in the now because it's early days, but Celtic are going to win the league. You're

00:15:56going to have to suck it up until this manager gets the structure in place. The message wasn't

00:16:01clear, you know, because the expectations of Rangers fans is, he's in, title, cups, we

00:16:08want it to happen. It's not going to happen, Ali.

00:16:10No, and you know the interesting thing about this? And, you know, they want to have this

00:16:14process and you're saying, okay, you mentioned a four or five year thing, man, it's this

00:16:18kind of steady build to where we get to. This is never going to work with Rangers. They

00:16:22never work because you have a fan base who are so demanding and trophies. So the fan

00:16:27base will constantly demand and when it doesn't happen, it becomes toxic.

00:16:31Well, the other thing about it, that...

00:16:32So you're stuck in that cycle.

00:16:33That's why you need an experienced manager.

00:16:35You not only can come in and say, right, I'm going to organise the structure of the club,

00:16:39but I'm also going to give a stern message to the fans and let them buy into what I'm

00:16:46trying to do. You're not going to get that with a Russell Martin or you're definitely

00:16:51not going to get it with a Danny Roll saying, look, give me the time. It's just not going

00:16:54to happen. Now, Danny Roll, you know, he's going to come in there and the one thing he

00:16:58is going to realise is quite simply, Alec, that this is a team of people with a

00:17:06questionable attitude, strength of character and, of course, the ultimate thing, lack of

00:17:12ability.

00:17:12Yeah. Well, listen, Jack Buckland came out of the weekend and he was talking about all

00:17:20this. And there's a source of frustration with Jack. And I actually think Jack could

00:17:25quite easily have went a lot further than he did do. And I think he would be within his

00:17:29rights. Clearly there's things not right within that dressing room. Now, I've been saying for

00:17:34weeks, the manager's getting battered, but the players are getting away scot-free. Now there

00:17:39was obviously a banner at the weekend saying, you know, stand up and be counted along the

00:17:44lines to the players. You can't hide behind buses. You can't hide behind managers. So

00:17:49they really need to within the dressing room. Whether they've got that, I'm not exactly sure

00:17:53because it's been going on too long. So, again, it doesn't matter where it's Musk at, Steven

00:18:01Gerrard or Danny Roll. It doesn't matter. See until that dressing room, they start getting

00:18:06people who are going to dig up. Because you're looking at this team in 45 minutes, brilliant,

00:18:12really good, brilliant, free-flowing football. See, as soon as it comes on top, they're crumbling.

00:18:16They're caving in. And it's not that they're caving in and they're going like, ah, right,

00:18:21we'll just dig in and we'll grind out a 1-0. They're shipping goals for fun. They're so wide

00:18:25open. And this would have to be the first thing when you go in there. What did Sunnis do,

00:18:29like you said there? You need to sort out the back line and build for there and then

00:18:33build forward. The other thing about it, and it's not exactly rocket science, Ruffey,

00:18:37I've said this on countless shows, good managers come in and they actually look and say, right,

00:18:42okay, we've got to get the spine of the team right. So you get it. It's like Brian Clough

00:18:46said, what did you do to make Norringham Forest come out of the old second division into the

00:18:50first division to win the league and win the European Cup? I said, I'll tell you what I

00:18:53did. I bought Peter Shilton. I had two guys, Kenny Bunsen and Barry Lloyd, right at the

00:18:58heart of it. And then in the middle, I made sure I had Archie Gemmel in there. And over

00:19:01and above that, it was a little sprinkling of gold dust. And the gold dust was a fat

00:19:05Scottish boy on the left-hand side who could beat guys for fun. John Robertson, one of

00:19:08the greatest Scottish players ever. And then from there, you've got O'Neill, you've got

00:19:13Peter Wythe, you've got Gary Bertels, you've got Ian Boyer, you know, and eventually Trevor

00:19:18Francis. That's how you build a side. At the back, don't lose goals, we're not losing

00:19:24games.

00:19:25Well, this is what the new guy's got to do. But unfortunately, he's not going to be a chance

00:19:28to do that in January. In fact, he's got a bit of fortnight to be hero or villain

00:19:33for the Cup game.

00:19:35Well, the games coming up are, oh, incredible. So they've obviously got Europe, Kamarnock,

00:19:40Hibbs away, who are decent form. And then they've got the quarter, semi-final, sorry.

00:19:47So, does he get any tougher?

00:19:49Yeah, absolutely. It's a baptism of fire for him.

00:19:51Absolutely.

00:19:51And thank God that Rangers don't have an owner in Evangelos Maricanos, or Danny Roll

00:19:58would be out by the end of November. But we'll talk about that. 2-2 was the end up, and you

00:20:03were alluding there to Jack Butlin, what he had to say after that draw for Rangers.

00:20:09Anger, mate, to be honest. A story that we've seen a lot, and a feeling that we've felt a lot.

00:20:17So, yeah, angry. It's obviously demoralising for everybody when you put in a first half

00:20:24like that, where you see some real people sort of express themselves and, okay, we only scored

00:20:29one, we should score more. But a good performance, solid going forward. There was some exciting

00:20:34stuff going on. So to go from that to what happened between 1-0 and 2-1 down is, honestly,

00:20:43I would love to know exactly what goes through half the lads' heads at times, or us as a team,

00:20:49what goes through, how do we get ourselves in that position. But it's a story of the season,

00:20:54really.

00:20:56Yeah, he's been fairly honest about it.

00:20:57They don't get the second goal, Peter, in the second half. If they get the second goal,

00:21:01that's 3-4-0 probably at Rangers, because they're all relaxing, they play in the fans. The

00:21:05longer it goes at 1-0, it's always been in that movie before. Fans start to get edgy,

00:21:09you know, done the United score. And then Rangers just crumbled. Absolutely crumbled.

00:21:13Did you think he was maybe at fault for the first one? Or did it come through?

00:21:18No, it came through.

00:21:19Yeah?

00:21:19No, it came through. And the second one as well. You can see a look on his face. I mean,

00:21:25when you get defenders in front of you...

00:21:26The second one is not to blame. It's a worldie, isn't it?

00:21:29Well, I have to be honest with you, so see the thing is, they played with two sixes at the

00:21:33weekend Rangers, and how Sibyl gets in behind in that little corridor to then. And then

00:21:37I think it was Cornelius, and he was literally from here to the camera, which is about six

00:21:41yards away. There is no pressure on the ball. So it allows him to just play that round.

00:21:46I mean, it's obviously a great execution and fair play to young Sibyl, but the actual reality

00:21:51is, is see when you're fighting for your life, you've got to go out and shut that down,

00:21:55press that and take one of the chops.

00:21:56Yes.

00:21:56And I just don't see it. I don't see the desire to get after the ball and then stop that

00:22:00or try and get something on, a ricochet.

00:22:02Yeah, but that was Buckland's point, you know, you can see it when they hit the back and

00:22:05why he's not doing that. If you're going to press it, if you're not going to press it,

00:22:09go out the road and let him get a field view of it. You know, what they're doing is just

00:22:12blocking his view, you know, and just standing still.

00:22:15Jim Goodwin, obviously, Dundee United boss, well, happy with the point. And of course,

00:22:20I think he emphasised to the players, get back in the game or get in the game, get in front,

00:22:25whatever you do, you can increase the anxiety inside Ibrox.

00:22:29It grew into the game in the second half. Obviously, you know, getting the equaliser

00:22:34was important. We felt at that point, you know, were we able to get things back on level terms

00:22:40that the atmosphere might change again in our favour and you could kind of sense that anxiety

00:22:45coming from the stands. And yeah, I mean, the disappointment, you know, from us is to be

00:22:50leading and, you know, at such a late stage in the game and not to be able to see it through.

00:22:55It does feel a little bit like a couple of points dropped, but at the same time, had

00:23:00you offered me a draw at half-time for as bad as we were, I'm pretty sure had taken us.

00:23:06Sometimes, when you are talking so much about the madness of Celtic and Rangers, you forget

00:23:12about the team that's worked hard to get the point in the first place.

00:23:15Yeah, I thought, listen, I've obviously just seen the highlights. The first half, Rangers

00:23:18were well on top because they were two or three up, but there's obviously a few boys at

00:23:21half-time. In the second half, I thought they came out, you know, won a lot of second

00:23:24balls and just put a lot of pressure on the Rangers. And Rangers, as we've seen, you

00:23:28know, confidence is very brittle at the minute. And as soon as they went to one each, I thought

00:23:32they were probably going to win the game here. And they were unlucky not to do it. Obviously,

00:23:36Tavenier popped up with a late equaliser, but impressed with the 92nd half. I think they're

00:23:40sitting in fourth on the table. Jim Goodman's doing a great job up there. You know, he's

00:23:44signed 13, 14 players in the summer, a lot of foreign boys, and he's moulded them into

00:23:49a good unit. And they look a handy side.

00:23:51When we all, you know, once the transfer window closed and we all gave our assessment of who

00:23:56was going to win the league, who would be second and third, and then who was getting into the

00:24:01playoff or relegated, it looked as if, you know, you could have made a good call. The

00:24:07majority, I mean, obviously, I took it in the chin for saying Hearts would finish second.

00:24:12Listen, who knows the way the whole league's going to go? It's a long, long time. Twists and

00:24:17turns along the way. New manager, new structure. Maybe backing for Rangers and the

00:24:21January transfer window. But suddenly, I'm looking at teams in this league and it's

00:24:26crazy. You've got Hibs who are third, we're going to talk about. You've got Hearts who

00:24:30are top. You've got Dundee United who pulled off a good result. Kilmaric played well up

00:24:35until they met Hearts. That's right, yeah.

00:24:36And then you've got Motherwell playing really good football in 45-minute spells and then

00:24:40eventually blowing it. And Aberdeen, suddenly, are back-to-back. They're on their way again.

00:24:46I've been getting it from Kenny.

00:24:47Tam wanted them sick two weeks ago.

00:24:49Listen, Tam always.

00:24:51Tam, you don't need to tell.

00:24:52Actually, I tipped my win at the weekend, Aberdeen.

00:24:55Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. We were an actual one game away from winning 600 quid, Ruffy.

00:25:03But still, that's Alisson for you. Pick him.

00:25:07Oh, no, he's got it. I like him.

00:25:09And saying that, when I saw the first half at Motherwell, I went, well done, Alisson.

00:25:15Yeah.

00:25:15Oh, no, exactly. Listen, honestly, I've got to tell you something about that game in a

00:25:20moment. But the reason why I mention it is because it's so tough to call. Aberdeen are

00:25:24looking as if they're on their way up. And then you get to a situation where the Celtic

00:25:29bandwagon rolls on with, you know, the lines coming out from the manager continually.

00:25:34The fans are unhappy. They're throwing tennis balls and every type of thing you could think

00:25:38of on to show their displeasure at the board. And then you've got Celtic again, this kind

00:25:44of a turgid performance and done in by Dundee.

00:25:48No, and I have to commend Big Elvis. I thought he set his boys up brilliantly. They carried

00:25:54a threat, which is really good when you're playing against a team that's so, what is it, 80-odd

00:25:58possession? And he managed to get up the pitch and get the two goals. Yeah, I thought Celtic

00:26:05were slow. And the thing is, you think back to Celtic over the last couple of years, they

00:26:10have been peppering the target constantly, scoring over 100 goals last year. And this

00:26:16year they seem as if they're kind of struggling in that regard. Yeah, there's something though

00:26:21quite right with the way things are going. And I think it's six games they haven't scored

00:26:26in. It was almost last year, they never kind of did that already. Three, the winning goals

00:26:32were in injury time also. So that was a good start from my mate earlier on who filled me

00:26:37in with that. But they are huffing and puffing, Peter. And with the off the field stuff as well,

00:26:45it seems to me as if they are in a really bad place as a club because the fans are against

00:26:50the board, there seems to be this kind of disconnect with the manager and the recruitment

00:26:55side of things as well. So I think, you know, I think they just need to try and get on a

00:27:00run to try and get on running. I've got Hearts at the weekend, which will be really fascinating

00:27:04because the whole emphasis will come if Hearts won at the weekend more onto the manager and

00:27:10the team because I think they've kind of got away with it over the last 10 or 12 games.

00:27:15Well, slowly but surely, Alec, and I'm glad you brought that point up. Slowly but surely,

00:27:20a lot of fans are saying, listen, we're unhappy with the board, we're unhappy with the recruitment,

00:27:25but you've still got some team there that can outspend anybody, can certainly outplay them

00:27:29and you have to do the job. And this is what he had to say. And again, another classic Brendan,

00:27:35another classic line that he delivered. And I'm going to quote Chris Boyd on something that

00:27:40he said that I thought he actually nailed it on the coverage. But this is what he had to

00:27:44say. It's not all linear or smooth all the way through the season. We lost a lot of firepower

00:27:49and goals from the team. And there's no way you go into a race with the keys to a Honda Civic

00:27:55and take off like a Ferrari. It's not going to happen. So until something changes, I have

00:28:01to find the solution. Like I said, goals, speed, everything. We have to find a way to be better.

00:28:06Now, again, you can spin it any way you want. That's Brendan having a go in typical Brendan

00:28:13fashion about the fact that they didn't give him the keys to the Ferrari, the engine in

00:28:19the Ferrari to be able to actually go and play the football that he wants. So you know exactly

00:28:26where he's going with that. And of course, the one thing that Chris Boyd said, which I

00:28:28thought, fair play to you. There comes the classic England match of the day interview just

00:28:36to let everybody in the English Premier League know, I'm here. I'm available. I haven't gone

00:28:41away. I'm not going to be with Celtic next season. I'm ready for you. Honestly, you could

00:28:47write a book on the amount of times that has happened. Down there, English press, lovely

00:28:55because we don't like the Scottish press. We'll give you that. You'll do it strategically.

00:28:59And by the time we get to May, he'll be off. My gut feeling is if this turgid football continues,

00:29:05the Celtic fans will go, wait a minute, you're to blame and the board will sack him. And if

00:29:11they sacked him, I think it'd suit him. Possibly, yeah. But I think it's his own downfall for

00:29:17not definitively coming out and saying, right, you know, I'm waiting on a rolling contract

00:29:22and I'm waiting on something. He hasn't come out and said, is he staying? Is he not?

00:29:25But no, he's not said that. You're just saying that because you think he's going to go away.

00:29:31But he's not said that. So what's left the fans going, is he going? Is he no? And the

00:29:36last person I remember that happened to when the season absolutely collapsed was Walter

00:29:40Smith. When Walter Smith said he was going to Everton halfway through the season, the whole

00:29:44season just evaporated because they all knew he was leaving. And if the supporters think

00:29:50that is the case, the same thing is going to happen to Celtic. I don't think, certainly

00:29:56Celtic fans that I speak to, I don't know anybody that thinks he's going to stay. No,

00:30:01he's not staying. Let me say, admit that, I'm not too sure too many people actually want

00:30:06him to stay. No, I don't think any Celtic, I don't think there's any, if many, would want

00:30:10Brendan Rodgers to be the manager next season. I think you look at the performances so far

00:30:14this season and you're talking about the keys to Ferrari and stuff like that. They signed

00:30:19Alec Wiesha for £6 million, signed Tonechi for £5-6 million, Peter. They've got a £9

00:30:26million guy on the bench, trusty, they've got an £11 million midfielder on the bench.

00:30:30He's the money to spend, Peter. You could outspend every other club and they're currently

00:30:34sitting five points behind Hearts, so I think you hit the nail on the head. I think if Hearts

00:30:37beat Celtic on Sunday, I think Brendan Rodgers would be really under pressure. And again,

00:30:43I hate agreeing with you. I think he would be delighted to get the bump. I think he'd be

00:30:49delighted to get the bump. If he's delighted to get the bump the way they're going now

00:30:52and what's happened to him over the last couple of years, what kind of team are we talking

00:30:55about he's going to? Where does his CV at this precise moment give him to go?

00:31:00You're talking about a division where you've got people who are owners now of clubs who

00:31:05are giving guys eight games. The Premier League is going down a road which is potentially the

00:31:13worst road for football, for managers, for stability, for looking at it and saying this is,

00:31:19you know, you could be sacked in the Premier League and that's you set for life. But the

00:31:24fact that, you know, Postacoglu's got eight games, 39 days.

00:31:29That's a shambles.

00:31:29It's a shambles. It is a laughingstock. He is the worst type of owner you could ever want

00:31:35to sign a deal with. It's, you know, they say it's not worth the paper it's written on.

00:31:39You'd actually wonder if you were going to get out to parade yourself with a scarf before

00:31:43he's looking at somebody else. It's a disaster. So he'll get a job in the Premier League,

00:31:48absolutely no doubt about it. Because you only have to look at, his narrative will be,

00:31:52well, wait a minute, I was within a hair's breadth of taking Bayern Munich out in the knockout

00:31:58and then I asked him for players and I didn't get them. My point, Alec, on this, and I'm

00:32:03going to cut Brendan a bit of slack here because I do think he's a top coach, is this problem.

00:32:09I don't think he agreed to the signing of the majority of the players. I think he's in there,

00:32:15in a structure and a well-oiled machine that says, here's your players. Can I have this

00:32:21one? No, you're getting this one.

00:32:22Well, do you know what an interesting thing about all this is? We've been discussing this

00:32:25for years. Nobody really knows the structure of Celtic and how they recruit players. Because

00:32:31that would, because it, so we've went, oh, he signed Balaquisha and he signed Taneke.

00:32:36But has he? So that's what I'm saying. We don't actually know the actual structure, but

00:32:40I think Brendan Rodgers has done more than enough in his managerial career to walk into

00:32:48another top job. And even if you think about the trophies he's secured up here, now this

00:32:52season's been with turgid and things. Last year they're flying. Out with, and there seemed

00:32:55to be a little bit of dip with the cup final. It wasn't great against Aberdeen. But the actual

00:32:59reality is, in the main, this guy's trajectory has been up there. It's started to dip a little

00:33:04bit since the cup final last year. Knocked out of the Champions League this year. So

00:33:10it started to dip a little bit. But in the main, over the body of work, his career, it's

00:33:15been no bad. You know, you've got to give him that, at least. But the now is the narrative

00:33:21of the circumstances which he's currently working under. And it cannae be. Because see if they're

00:33:28not backed him in the window there. And you actually think, if we could've got the boys

00:33:31in, it might have gave us. I still think the squad he had was good enough to beat the

00:33:34Kazakhstan lot. But the actual reality is they didn't get it. So then everybody's

00:33:39jostling for, maybe because the punters are on top of you. So they're all jostling for

00:33:42position. So then what's that? And then all of a sudden, this has been a mess created within

00:33:47the corridors of Parkhead. Yeah. And he can't resist, Ruffy. That statement

00:33:53there is not just about that game against Dundee. He does it every week. He's now changed

00:33:59his line to, I've just got to try and work out a solution from the dross that I've got.

00:34:07I don't think he's daft enough if he knows, as you say, he's leaving at the end of the

00:34:12season. He'll want a reasonable Premier Club. He thinks he's going to just see it this season,

00:34:17no double, no treble, nothing. He's not going to get the same club that he's going to get

00:34:22if his profile's stuck. I know what he's done. There's no doubt about that. But he's not

00:34:26daft enough to just down tools and say, right, I'm not caring if I don't win the league.

00:34:31I'm not caring if I don't win a cup.

00:34:32It doesn't matter if he's not daft enough. His team just got gubbed with Dundee. Dundee

00:34:36have been the whipping boys over the last four or five weeks, Ruffy.

00:34:39Yeah, but we all know who he's blaming. He's blaming the board because they never fulfilled

00:34:43what he wanted. So when January comes, we'll get a right idea of who's doing what at the

00:34:48club.

00:34:49Let's not forget also, to put this pressure on him, Dundee managed to beat them by two

00:34:55goals to nil. And Stephen Presley, like many a manager, has said, better being lucky than

00:35:00good.

00:35:00I think to beat Celtic on any given day, you have to carry a degree of luck. You also

00:35:07have to show a real resilience and a real determination in the way you play. You know, you can talk all

00:35:13you want about the tactical elements, but the delivering of them is ultimately down to the

00:35:19players. And I thought they were exceptional today. You know, they showed the courage to

00:35:25play under pressure at times. They also showed the energy to counter at the appropriate times.

00:35:30So I couldn't be prouder because it's been a difficult couple of weeks for us in the back

00:35:37Dundee game.

00:35:38Yeah. I mean, I think general consensus, and I think we all know the persona and the reality of,

00:35:45you know, Stephen Presley is different. I hate to say this, he's a good lad. He really is a good lad.

00:35:51But he's the type of guy though, Tom, you could say to Elvis, by the way, happy birthday, I've got you a cake

00:35:57and I bought you a red Ferrari out there. Here's the keys. And he'd look at you and he'd go, and I just want to thank you for that.

00:36:02Thanks very much.

00:36:03Yes, absolutely. But by the way, fair credit to these players. You know, a lot of them, I might as well tell you now, made it into the team of the week.

00:36:11Yeah, listen, I'm delighted for Elvis. You know, he signed me for Falkirk. I worked on them for a season and I really, really liked him as a coach. I liked him as a person. I think he's got good morals as well. And listen, he's been written off early doors at Dundee.

00:36:22Yeah, that's what I liked him.

00:36:24I hated that, you know, he came in, Stephen Presley, he's sacked at Coventry or sacked at Dundee.

00:36:30Come on, give the guy a chance. And a lot of Dundee fans have written him off and I'm glad that he's proven them wrong. At the minute, there's still a long way to go, but great result for Dundee. You know, first time they've won, beat Celtic at home in 40 odd years. So, no, delighted for him, delighted for the club. And they look to push up the table.

00:36:47See, that's the thing, is you have to work really hard to get these results, you know, with the organisation and getting the best out of your boys.

00:36:52And then obviously, when they went there, the punters were going, what? You know, there was a week and a bit discontent.

00:36:57But the actual reality is, he's actually done well. And I'm pleased for him because it's very difficult to turn that mindset around, try and get the punters on board.

00:37:03It's very difficult to actually somehow get a structure and a team in place. And what he did early on, when I saw him in the early days, you know, when they played against Hibs, they were getting booed.

00:37:13But what he basically said, Ruffy, was, this back five and the back four, I don't want any space in between you.

00:37:22And we'll leave somebody as the out ball and we'll try and support you. But when they get the ball...

00:37:28Back into shape.

00:37:29Back into shape. And from there, that's where they're built. And that's where they've been able to say, right, OK, I've assessed the type of players I've got now.

00:37:37Can we hit in the counter-attack? Can we cause problems in set pieces? And that's what they've managed to do. Tactics spot on.

00:37:44No, if anything, right at the very beginning, he's been very, very honest. He came in and said, I need ten players.

00:37:49I need ten players to get to play the way that you were talking about. And in all fairness to him, it's taken him time, but he's done it.

00:37:55He's brought them in from here and there. And he's now got a partner. And you can see that at the weekend. It's working.

00:38:01Yeah. So they get the win. Congratulations to Dundee. Celtic fans out there, give us your thoughts.

00:38:07And I've got to quickly say, before we move on to Hearts, that the show goes out live at four.

00:38:13The majority of people who watch the programme will watch it at their leisure later on at night on the television and the YouTube channel.

00:38:20So right now, we now know that Danny Roll has been confirmed as the Rangers manager on a two-and-a-half-year deal.

00:38:27Alec just said he's one of the greatest managers that thinks Rangers will have it.

00:38:29Well, he started singing...

00:38:30Danny, Danny!

00:38:31Danny, Danny, Danny!

00:38:33It's a Stonewall CRT, turn it, and then you've got to roll with it.

00:38:36It's going to be out there on that public address system, Ruffy.

00:38:41Yeah, there certainly will be. I mean, I think Rangers support us.

00:38:43We knew Starla Haffin, Saturday.

00:38:44No, they just weren't in.

00:38:46It's this Sunday we're going to meet you, Ruffy, and Ruffy in the main stand.

00:38:50Absolutely.

00:38:51He's got to come in. He's just got to win games.

00:38:53And he'll know that. He's been in the game long enough that you win a game, things turn.

00:38:57But I still think the second of November is going to be the big one.

00:39:00And if he wins that one, he's a hero.

00:39:04Let's calm your jets on this point, Alec, which is quite simply, he's just got to come in and assess things.

00:39:10And I think, I don't know if the board will speak on his behalf or he'll have to come out and say it.

00:39:16But the basis of Danny Rowell at a press conference will be, listen, you're rid of the last guy in jig time.

00:39:26I need time.

00:39:27Yeah.

00:39:27And your squad's not great.

00:39:29Somebody needs to tell the fans a home truth.

00:39:32Yeah, but I don't think he's going to come out and do that.

00:39:35I don't think, I would not expect a manager to come out and go, this squad are not great.

00:39:39No, I don't think that.

00:39:41But I think if I was Danny Rowell, I'd sit in the chair and I'd go, listen, it's going to take time.

00:39:48Please give me the time and I will turn this around.

00:39:50Well, unfortunately, regardless of what he says, if he says that, Peter, the actual reality is the punters will want to see some sort of improvement.

00:39:58Yes.

00:39:58And that's the only short term.

00:40:00So I'm really interested to see how this plays out.

00:40:02Because he's obviously went into Sheffield Wednesday.

00:40:05And he has a philosophy and he has an idea of how he wants to play.

00:40:09As soon as you quickly realise what you've got at your disposal, that's where you need to go to work, Peter.

00:40:13Because you then need to go, right, okay, what's my best back for?

00:40:16What's going to stop shipping goals?

00:40:18How do we do that in the middle of the park?

00:40:19How do we become more resolute when we don't have the ball?

00:40:22Because Rangers are kind of getting carved open.

00:40:25See for the opening, I don't know, is it 14, 15 games, whatever it is.

00:40:29See the amount of times you see Rangers getting transitioned, teams getting after them and then big gaps and things.

00:40:36That needs to get plugged because there doesn't seem to be a structure without the ball.

00:40:40So you need a good rest defence.

00:40:41Yeah.

00:40:42So that your defenders are locked onto Tams.

00:40:44Tams playing centre-forged, you go bang, we're in there.

00:40:46So they need to become more resolute without the ball.

00:40:49Because it looks as if they've got certain patterns.

00:40:52If they get Ashgarden that into the right areas as well, which you've seen at the weekend, getting him up to speed.

00:40:57But I'm fascinated to see how this plays out because the boy has to actually find a system and a shape very quickly for the personnel.

00:41:05And by the way, what have we got?

00:41:06What day is it?

00:41:06Monday, so three days before he goes to Scandinavia and then obviously home.

00:41:12And Camarna have actually started the season well as well.

00:41:14So it's a baptism of fire.

00:41:16Absolutely.

00:41:17And that point you were making there was the first chance that came in that game was Dolceic.

00:41:21And as he's running onto the ball, the shot that just went past the post.

00:41:25Yes.

00:41:25There was a deflection, wasn't it?

00:41:26There was only two Rangers defenders chasing him.

00:41:29And he was in in goal.

00:41:30So he's got to sort out the back four.

00:41:32Anyway, he's got a two and a half year contract.

00:41:34Tell us what you think about it.

00:41:35He's the new Rangers manager.

00:41:37Some people camed me on social media last night because I said he was third choice.

00:41:42And they said, no, he's fifth or sixth choice.

00:41:44I think you have to look at who's been offered the job.

00:41:49Am I right?

00:41:50Or is he fifth choice?

00:41:50I think there'll be some revision going on about him having knocked back the job initially.

00:41:55That was the rumour he's knocked back the job he wasn't happy with.

00:41:58I think that'll be...

00:41:59Well, he took his cell out of the running.

00:42:00I got the impression that he felt as if Muscat was a done deal.

00:42:05Yeah.

00:42:05And then he's actually tried to save face and went, you know, I'll just pull myself out of this.

00:42:09That's the impression I got.

00:42:10Whether it's true or no, that's what I'm from the outside looking at.

00:42:12I never thought Sean Dyche was a realistic option.

00:42:14No, but...

00:42:15You know?

00:42:15But listen, he's got the job and we will see what he's able to do.

00:42:20Now, listen, it's the early days.

00:42:22I'm just looking at the date here.

00:42:23It's the 20th of October.

00:42:24It's a long, long way to go.

00:42:26But should I be buying the Hart socks and just buy them in instalments now?

00:42:30Not yet.

00:42:31Not yet.

00:42:31At Kilmarnock.

00:42:32And boy, did they look good.

00:42:33Three breakaways.

00:42:34Yeah.

00:42:36That was a fort now.

00:42:38Actually, do you want to take something?

00:42:40The two Braga goals, Kilmarnock gave the ball to them.

00:42:43Listen, Kilmarnock defended really poorly.

00:42:46Set-piece first goal, Halkett, obviously.

00:42:48Great header, but listen, I think the Harts are playing with a lot of confidence at the minute.

00:42:52You know, you can see, I don't think there was much in the game until the opening goal.

00:42:55I thought Kilmarnock probably started a wee bit brighter, but they're really solid at the back,

00:42:59Harts, and they've got a threat in the forward areas.

00:43:01Kirazidis and Braga, Shanklin's playing a kind of deeper role.

00:43:05They look a real threat.

00:43:06Cammy Devlin was excellent at the middle.

00:43:07They have a good balance, Tamma.

00:43:08To their team, they look as if they're in a comfortable place.

00:43:10Yeah, they're playing Shanklin, obviously, slightly deeper.

00:43:11Off of Braga, which is an interesting one, and they're playing Kirazidis on the left.

00:43:15It'd be interesting if we could wind this on a weak one at Monday, and he'll be sitting there going, oh, no.

00:43:19Yeah, it's a huge game on Sunday.

00:43:22I think if Harts beat Celtic at the weekend, I think...

00:43:26Get the socks.

00:43:26I'm trying to do my leg on Monday.

00:43:31But there's a long way to go, but Harts have been really impressive.

00:43:34You've got to give them credit.

00:43:35You've got to give Derek McInnes credit.

00:43:36They've started really, really strongly, and it's just if they can keep it up and keep the consistency.

00:43:40Yeah.

00:43:41Listen, this is what Stuart Kettlewell and Derek McInnes made of it.

00:43:46I want us just to be obsessed with winning.

00:43:47We're addicted to winning.

00:43:48We've got us home and away, and if we can get that bit between the teeth

00:43:52and enjoy this feeling that we're getting at the minute, then that's there for us every game we play.

00:43:58If we work towards it, there's going to be belts in the mouth along the road,

00:44:04and there's going to be tight games where we don't get the desired outcome,

00:44:08but we just want to try and keep those to a minimum.

00:44:10I'm never chucking anybody under the bus here, but you don't see it coming from guys that have been so reliable as well.

00:44:16So I don't finger point.

00:44:18I don't, as I say, chuck anybody under the bus.

00:44:21What we have to do is learn for errors.

00:44:23But that's not tactically.

00:44:25That's not even technically.

00:44:27It's almost levels of concentration and decision-making.

00:44:29Yeah, two slips, and Braga was on them, and the ball's in the back of the net.

00:44:35I mean, he's a player, Ruffy, and the fans absolutely adore him.

00:44:41The only thing is, is that pain-in-the-earth song that they keep singing now every two minutes.

00:44:45It's non-stop, you know.

00:44:47He's certainly got some, particularly when he's in the box.

00:44:50You know, he's tricky.

00:44:50He's got great feet.

00:44:52The goal he scored was great.

00:44:53Good finisher.

00:44:53Fitching it, you know, it was superb.

00:44:56You know, and as Tam said, we're not talking about Shanklin now.

00:44:59No, Shanklin's not on some other areas.

00:45:01It's other players that we're now talking about.

00:45:04So that just shows you how well that they're doing.

00:45:05Alcant's got a few as well now, eh?

00:45:07Fred Fowl set-piece.

00:45:08Alcant's only had that.

00:45:08He was at the top of the set-piece chart, out with penalties on seven.

00:45:14Yeah, but also the good thing about him, which he's doing really well, Alec, is he's got a squad.

00:45:18And he's utilising the bench, and the bench is contributing as well.

00:45:22Yeah, and I think that's one of the key factors.

00:45:25When you're looking at a team that can potentially do something, is can they bring someone on?

00:45:29Does he diminish the quality of the starting of living?

00:45:32And it looks as if he's recruited well.

00:45:34When we go back to all these other clubs, Hearts will most certainly recruit again in January.

00:45:39And if they continue to recruit in the kind of manner which we've seen so far in the early exchanges,

00:45:46they could go far this season.

00:45:47The only thing that...

00:45:49He's let you off.

00:45:51Usually when somebody says something like that, he goes,

00:45:53Win the league?

00:45:57He usually does.

00:45:59With all due respect, I did say, and I'm the only one in this whole entire panel for the whole week

00:46:07who predicted Hearts would finish second.

00:46:10And you absolutely all battered me early on.

00:46:12Now, there's a long way to go, and this is the point I'm about to make,

00:46:15which all of you are well aware of.

00:46:16When George Burley was there for Hearts, on that run, everybody jumped on, piled on.

00:46:22This could be unbelievable.

00:46:23Little did they know Romanoff was going to get involved and derail the whole thing.

00:46:28When he was at Aberdeen,

00:46:29Alec, at Aberdeen,

00:46:31Tony Docherty was sitting in this chair and he said we should have won the league.

00:46:34Celtic were married by the guy who's just been sacked again, Ronnie Dyla.

00:46:39So, they had a great chance, but they collapsed Aberdeen in October.

00:46:44There's a blip coming for Hearts,

00:46:46but it would be interesting to see if that blip happens longer down the line

00:46:52and they're able to crank it up.

00:46:55And on Sunday, if they win against Celtic, suddenly, you know,

00:46:58you're just like, everybody goes mental.

00:47:01Yeah, but see, when I look at Hearts,

00:47:02I don't mean this disrespectful to the rest of the league

00:47:04because all the other teams have got various qualities.

00:47:07You look at Motherwell for periods,

00:47:09Aberdeen a wee bit up and down,

00:47:11Dundee United,

00:47:13his lot, Hibs, are kind of drawn quite a lot.

00:47:16If they can maintain this way they kind of,

00:47:21the rest of the rest,

00:47:22and Nick draws and get the odd result against the two bigger ones,

00:47:26as you like,

00:47:27who knows where they can go?

00:47:28He said you have to get used to winning.

00:47:29If they beat Celtic, they've got St Mirren, Dundee,

00:47:31and Dundee United,

00:47:32and then Aberdeen away.

00:47:34And that's you,

00:47:35and then Motherwell,

00:47:36that's you into November.

00:47:38So, I mean,

00:47:39what do you do?

00:47:41If Stephen Presley is able to engineer it,

00:47:44what do you do if you're Derek McInnes going into that one?

00:47:48I think you're rubbing your hands, Peter.

00:47:50I think you're looking at it as a great opportunity

00:47:51to go eight points clear.

00:47:54I think you're looking at Celtic at the weekend there,

00:47:56and they were poor.

00:47:56I think there's areas you can get at them.

00:47:59They look toothless in the forward areas.

00:48:00Hearts are playing with a lot of confidence.

00:48:02Packed Tynecastle.

00:48:03So,

00:48:04and Derek McInnes has proven over the years,

00:48:05as Aberdeen manager,

00:48:06and commandment manager,

00:48:07that he can beat the rest.

00:48:09You know,

00:48:09he's very consistent.

00:48:10At Aberdeen,

00:48:11you know,

00:48:11he finished top three,

00:48:12top four,

00:48:12top,

00:48:13you know,

00:48:13every year.

00:48:14And they were very consistent.

00:48:15They didn't need to beat Celtic all the time,

00:48:17or Rangers,

00:48:17but they beat the rest all the time.

00:48:19And I think,

00:48:19that's why I think Hearts are going to be a threat this season,

00:48:21because even if they do get beaten Saturday,

00:48:23or drawing Saturday,

00:48:24I think they'll go and beat St Mernan.

00:48:26I think,

00:48:26I don't see them dropping off like Aberdeen last season,

00:48:28going 12 games without a win.

00:48:29No,

00:48:30I don't see that.

00:48:30I think they'll maybe lose,

00:48:31maybe one or two,

00:48:31then maybe one or a couple,

00:48:33and they'll maintain that gap over the rest.

00:48:35So,

00:48:35no,

00:48:36I think,

00:48:36I think Sunday is an enormous opportunity for Hearts to really put a marker down,

00:48:39but they're real title contenders.

00:48:41Yeah,

00:48:41would you say that on Monday,

00:48:43if they defeat Celtic on the Sunday?

00:48:44Yeah,

00:48:44I would.

00:48:45Listen,

00:48:45if they go eight points ahead of Celtic,

00:48:48I think they're real title contenders,

00:48:49absolutely,

00:48:50but they've got to prove it against Celtic.

00:48:51Yeah,

00:48:52can you see them do it?

00:48:53No.

00:48:56Yeah,

00:48:57I can,

00:48:57I can actually,

00:48:58Peter.

00:48:58Yeah.

00:48:59I don't want them,

00:48:59but I think I can,

00:49:00can see them beating Celtic at the weekend,

00:49:02do we Celtic are playing in the,

00:49:03in the,

00:49:03in the Stalines.

00:49:03I think,

00:49:04I think,

00:49:04I think at this moment in time,

00:49:07they,

00:49:07Hearts' front three are better than Celtic's front three.

00:49:11Yeah,

00:49:11I agree with that.

00:49:12Do you see them,

00:49:13do you think they'll win on Sunday?

00:49:13They're playing with more confidence,

00:49:14yeah,

00:49:14absolutely.

00:49:15I think Hearts will win on Sunday,

00:49:16do you think they will?

00:49:16No.

00:49:17No?

00:49:17No,

00:49:18I don't either.

00:49:18I think Celtic is,

00:49:20I'll say 80% per session,

00:49:22they had a lot of chances,

00:49:23wee things going,

00:49:25they'll have,

00:49:25I think they'll just have too much for Hearts.

00:49:27Yeah?

00:49:27Yeah.

00:49:28Okay.

00:49:28Me too.

00:49:29By the way,

00:49:30this is Monday.

00:49:31No,

00:49:31no.

00:49:31You know what Bonzo's like?

00:49:32Oh,

00:49:33no,

00:49:33I changed it on Friday,

00:49:34I know that,

00:49:34I know how this works,

00:49:35by the way,

00:49:35no,

00:49:35but I,

00:49:36I just think,

00:49:37I'm,

00:49:37he's no in on Friday,

00:49:38so he can beat it now.

00:49:42I don't see them beating them.

00:49:43No,

00:49:44no,

00:49:44listen,

00:49:44I think they're capable of being,

00:49:46No,

00:49:46we know they're capable,

00:49:46that's a lovely one.

00:49:47No,

00:49:47no,

00:49:48no,

00:49:48I look at the way that Hearts are performing,

00:49:51and I can see them actually getting a result,

00:49:53but I just think,

00:49:54when it matters,

00:49:55with the Celtic team,

00:49:56with the,

00:49:56kind of,

00:49:57your McGregors,

00:49:58your Katervikers,

00:49:59and the likes of them,

00:50:00I just think,

00:50:01they'll probably have too much for him on Sunday.

00:50:04Okay,

00:50:04okay,

00:50:05interesting,

00:50:05can't wait to see you next Monday.

00:50:07I know,

00:50:07I know.

00:50:07And by the way,

00:50:08another thing,

00:50:09we're talking about Hearts,

00:50:11Hibs are third.

00:50:12What a great result that was.

00:50:13I just think,

00:50:14obviously because Hearts are going so well,

00:50:15people are taking their eye off the other clubs a wee bit,

00:50:17and I think that Hibs have drew a lot of games.

00:50:20I watched the full game at the weekend,

00:50:22I thought,

00:50:22by a mile,

00:50:23their best performance of the season.

00:50:25I thought,

00:50:26Cleegee who came in,

00:50:27who's been in and out of the team,

00:50:28and the fans have been really wanting to,

00:50:29see him getting a runner for him,

00:50:30he's cost a million pound.

00:50:32I thought he was superb at the weekend,

00:50:33I thought he looked a real player,

00:50:35scored the first goal,

00:50:36caused the limits,

00:50:37and all sorts of problems,

00:50:38won a penalty.

00:50:39And Hibs could have beat limits in five or six,

00:50:41easily.

00:50:42Solid at the back,

00:50:42real threat,

00:50:44real complete performance from Hibs,

00:50:45and an opportunity for them to go and kick on now.

00:50:48But,

00:50:49I think with the run of games that Hibs have got coming up,

00:50:51I think they've got Aberdeen away at the weekend,

00:50:53who come back from a tough away game in Athens.

00:50:55An opportunity going there,

00:50:56they've got Rangers at home.

00:50:57So there's an opportunity for Hibs to go and kick us.

00:51:00Maybe go and push for top three as well.

00:51:04Obviously all the hype's about Harts,

00:51:06and rightly so,

00:51:06they've started great,

00:51:08but,

00:51:09you know,

00:51:09Hibs play the way they played at the weekend,

00:51:10they'll be rid of the boots as well.

00:51:11Yeah.

00:51:12Tell you what,

00:51:12if Hibs win the title,

00:51:13Alec and I will have the full kick.

00:51:14Oh,

00:51:14die.

00:51:16Oh,

00:51:16day long.

00:51:19Yeah,

00:51:19I'll probably wear a sellie one.

00:51:23It's got green on it.

00:51:26I woke up,

00:51:27I woke up doing Duke Street for us.

00:51:29The 150th anniversary strip,

00:51:31he's looking at where they hook.

00:51:32Anything?

00:51:33He knows there's not happening.

00:51:35Sorry,

00:51:35Hibs fans.

00:51:36This is what,

00:51:37this is what David Gray,

00:51:39David Martindale made of that game.

00:51:41A real strong squad.

00:51:42You've got competition for places everywhere.

00:51:44Especially in that forward area.

00:51:46When you look at even my bench today,

00:51:47the competition for places,

00:51:49the players that don't even get on the bench today.

00:51:50So I think,

00:51:51it is a really good group.

00:51:53And when you get your opportunity,

00:51:54you need to make sure you play to a level

00:51:55that you can try and stay in the team.

00:51:57Because I think that's healthy to have.

00:51:59It's a harsh reminder.

00:52:00I think last year in the champ,

00:52:02you probably got away with that today.

00:52:04You probably got away with that

00:52:05because we were the bigger team.

00:52:07But my,

00:52:08my ambitions were to stay in the premiership.

00:52:11Maybe it's a stark reminder to everyone

00:52:13at the football club,

00:52:15how hard that job's going to be.

00:52:17Yeah,

00:52:18you just need to remind us

00:52:19because,

00:52:19you know,

00:52:20I think we picked Dundee

00:52:22and Falkirk and Livingston

00:52:23to be in that,

00:52:24Boron 3,

00:52:25Ruffey and Davies up against it.

00:52:27I think he knows he is.

00:52:28Obviously,

00:52:29he's got new owners in there

00:52:30and they gave him a wee bit of money,

00:52:31you know,

00:52:31and he thought it was going to be

00:52:32a wee bit easier.

00:52:33But,

00:52:34I mean,

00:52:34that's a game you've just got to

00:52:35put it away,

00:52:36put it in the burner

00:52:37and then just move on

00:52:38because he'll be playing

00:52:39the likes of the other teams

00:52:40and that's the points

00:52:41that he'll have to pick up.

00:52:43Yeah.

00:52:44Okay,

00:52:44Hibs 4,

00:52:45Livingston 0.

00:52:46And I was at Fir Park

00:52:48for Motherwell 1,

00:52:49Falkirk 2.

00:52:51And I,

00:52:52Game of two halves?

00:52:54I'm changing my mind on them,

00:52:55I just cannot believe it

00:52:56and I don't think

00:52:57the manager's going to be,

00:52:59you know,

00:53:01my favourite cup of tea

00:53:01if I was in press conferences

00:53:03with them all the time

00:53:03because the first half,

00:53:05I mean,

00:53:05I looked at a couple of Falkirk players

00:53:06who were sitting in the stand

00:53:08and the first half,

00:53:10they just looked at me

00:53:11and it was like

00:53:11the fear of God in them.

00:53:13They were getting battered.

00:53:15They were unbelievable.

00:53:16The football they were playing,

00:53:18the movement,

00:53:19I will say this to them,

00:53:20I thought they got

00:53:21a perfectly good goal disallowed.

00:53:23And I think some,

00:53:24sometimes Ruffy,

00:53:25and I don't know

00:53:26if you agree with this,

00:53:26I think sometimes VAR

00:53:28and the people

00:53:29in the VAR offices

00:53:30are looking

00:53:31and trying to find ways

00:53:33to disallow goals.

00:53:35I would agree with you.

00:53:36I thought it was

00:53:36a bit rash as well.

00:53:38I thought the Falkirk defender

00:53:39come running in,

00:53:40you know,

00:53:41and get caught on the turn.

00:53:43It takes so long.

00:53:45To continue the play on,

00:53:47you know,

00:53:47I don't know how many seconds

00:53:47it takes to the boy

00:53:48put the ball in the back

00:53:49of the net.

00:53:50That's the thing

00:53:50that kills you

00:53:51because all of a sudden

00:53:52you're going back

00:53:53like 40 yards.

00:53:54He's beat three men

00:53:55and then bumped over the keeper

00:53:57as a great goal.

00:53:58Well,

00:53:58it's interesting

00:53:59because I was watching it,

00:54:01you know,

00:54:01when the ball's running across

00:54:02and you just try

00:54:03and sometimes block someone out.

00:54:05And then obviously

00:54:05you touched on there

00:54:07in terms of the goals,

00:54:08it was tremendous.

00:54:10So I was thinking to myself,

00:54:10has he kind of,

00:54:12you know,

00:54:12blocked it?

00:54:13Spencer wasn't it?

00:54:14In the middle of the pack,

00:54:14I think it was.

00:54:15I think he's blocked off

00:54:16the boy Spencer.

00:54:17But normally

00:54:17what's a very good indicator

00:54:18is that the boy goes,

00:54:20that's a foul.

00:54:20But he doesn't even,

00:54:21he kind of just gets back up

00:54:22and tries to get back

00:54:23into position.

00:54:23So that normally

00:54:24would be an indicator for me

00:54:26that that was,

00:54:27you know,

00:54:28the on-field decision

00:54:28was the correct one

00:54:29to play on.

00:54:30And then obviously

00:54:31the VAR decision

00:54:31sees a little bit of contact

00:54:32but I don't know

00:54:33if it's enough.

00:54:34I don't think it was enough.

00:54:35It really is poor

00:54:36and I had great sympathy

00:54:37for the manager

00:54:38in that situation.

00:54:39But again,

00:54:40apart from that,

00:54:42the second half,

00:54:43you know,

00:54:44I was going down,

00:54:45I think it was Aidan Nisbet

00:54:46was in his tracksuit

00:54:47and he's going down

00:54:48and he said,

00:54:49this could be 10-0.

00:54:51You know,

00:54:51and I said to him,

00:54:52yeah,

00:54:52but it's Motherwell.

00:54:54You're still in the game.

00:54:55It's only 1-0.

00:54:57The second half's still to come

00:54:58and they can't sustain this

00:55:01and that's exactly

00:55:02the way it played out.

00:55:02Yeah,

00:55:02they didn't

00:55:03and you've got to give

00:55:03Falkirk credit as well,

00:55:04second half.

00:55:05I thought they were

00:55:06obviously the better team

00:55:07in the second half

00:55:07and got two great goals

00:55:08towards the end

00:55:09and, you know,

00:55:10Jordan McGlynn's kind of

00:55:11flying under the radar

00:55:12a little bit.

00:55:12I think there's been

00:55:13a lot of hype about

00:55:13obviously Hearts

00:55:14and Motherwell

00:55:14and Dundee United

00:55:15and Falkirk are doing

00:55:16really well as well

00:55:17and they've got a lot

00:55:18of good players.

00:55:19You're talking about

00:55:19Motherwell playing

00:55:19attacking football,

00:55:20you know,

00:55:21I think Falkirk played

00:55:21just as good as football

00:55:22as Motherwell

00:55:23so I think you've got to

00:55:24give credit to Falkirk.

00:55:26I think a lot of people

00:55:26would expect him

00:55:27to go straight back down

00:55:27but I don't think

00:55:28they will, Peter.

00:55:29I think Falkirk

00:55:29have got a bit about them.

00:55:31I think they've got players

00:55:32in the forward areas

00:55:33that can score goals

00:55:34that are tied

00:55:35in the middle of the park

00:55:36and I don't think

00:55:37Falkirk will do them

00:55:38this season.

00:55:39This is Jens Berthel,

00:55:40Asgau and of course

00:55:41the Falkirk manager

00:55:42John McGlynn.

00:55:43If it takes

00:55:44some things

00:55:46that we can't control

00:55:47and the opposition

00:55:50can't either

00:55:51to beat us

00:55:52here at Firth Park

00:55:54then so be it

00:55:55then we'll have to

00:55:56trust that

00:55:56with a better

00:55:59overall performance

00:56:00from us

00:56:01next time

00:56:01here

00:56:02then we'll

00:56:05compensate for whatever.

00:56:06To come here

00:56:07and get three points

00:56:08is awesome.

00:56:09The character of the team

00:56:10is amazing.

00:56:11There's team spirit

00:56:12they're being resilient.

00:56:14I'd like to know

00:56:14what would happen

00:56:15when we go in front

00:56:16because we're

00:56:16first in the game

00:56:19we've no managed

00:56:19to do that

00:56:20we've been

00:56:20trying to fight back

00:56:21in virtually every game

00:56:22we've played in

00:56:23but thanks to the

00:56:24lads together

00:56:25in the spirit

00:56:26all the things

00:56:27I just mentioned

00:56:27there

00:56:28they managed

00:56:28to dig out

00:56:29the results.

00:56:30Nine points.

00:56:32Is that Ruffy?

00:56:34Just as I say

00:56:35there

00:56:35the Hibs

00:56:35sitting in third

00:56:36with nine

00:56:3611 points.

00:56:37Try not to run

00:56:37ahead of the thing.

00:56:39Let's put the

00:56:39lead table up Ruffy

00:56:40it's coming up.

00:56:42Listen let's get

00:56:42to the Dons

00:56:43the dandy Dons

00:56:43are back

00:56:44back to back

00:56:45wins Ruffy

00:56:45and by the way

00:56:47can I just say

00:56:47something to you

00:56:48do you remember

00:56:49and this was better

00:56:50do you remember

00:56:51when Berbatov

00:56:52ran to the corner

00:56:53in a game

00:56:55for Manchester United

00:56:56and the guy

00:56:57was coming towards

00:56:57him and he

00:56:57flicked it back

00:56:58over him

00:56:58on the violin

00:56:59cut it over

00:57:01for the goal

00:57:01this guy

00:57:02flicks it by them

00:57:04and then puts

00:57:04the ball

00:57:05on the

00:57:05what a goal

00:57:06was it?

00:57:06It was an

00:57:07incredible piece

00:57:08of skill

00:57:08I was actually

00:57:09thinking to myself

00:57:09because I think

00:57:10was it Tanzer

00:57:12was it the left

00:57:13back who steams

00:57:13in and I'm thinking

00:57:14he's actually sold

00:57:15himself but I

00:57:15don't think anybody

00:57:16on the ground

00:57:17is expecting him

00:57:18to dolly up

00:57:18over him

00:57:19and then managed

00:57:20to keep it in

00:57:20but it's

00:57:21you all know

00:57:22as a goalkeeper

00:57:22to get that

00:57:24if I

00:57:24have been

00:57:25beat there

00:57:26I've been

00:57:28absolutely raging

00:57:29he's out of

00:57:30the near post

00:57:31he's just

00:57:31got to reflect

00:57:33it's Bayern

00:57:34before he moves

00:57:35you'll feel

00:57:36a good goalie

00:57:36yeah

00:57:36absolutely

00:57:37if anybody

00:57:40under 40

00:57:41look at the

00:57:42Iran goal

00:57:43in 1978

00:57:44when the whole

00:57:45nation

00:57:45was flattened

00:57:46we're going to

00:57:47win the World

00:57:47Cup

00:57:48anyway

00:57:49anybody get

00:57:50an argument

00:57:50with Jadon

00:57:51Richardson

00:57:51I thought

00:57:52he's boot

00:57:53up

00:57:53nah

00:57:53I thought

00:57:55it was a red

00:57:55card

00:57:55ok here's the

00:57:56table Ruffy

00:57:57see what you

00:57:58make of it

00:57:58all

00:57:58because

00:57:59hearts out

00:58:01in front

00:58:01they can only

00:58:02throw it away

00:58:03I think that's

00:58:03obvious

00:58:04Celtic in

00:58:05behind them

00:58:06and then

00:58:06Hibbs on

00:58:0711

00:58:08then the

00:58:08bottom end

00:58:09Livvy

00:58:09just a point

00:58:11behind Aberdeen

00:58:12Ruffy

00:58:12what's your take

00:58:13yeah well

00:58:14already it looks

00:58:15as if

00:58:15Livingston is

00:58:16going to be

00:58:17down there

00:58:17for the

00:58:17large part

00:58:18of the

00:58:18season

00:58:18I think

00:58:19all the

00:58:19other teams

00:58:19look capable

00:58:20enough of

00:58:21beating each

00:58:21other so I

00:58:22think the

00:58:22table will be

00:58:23jumping up and

00:58:23down for a wee

00:58:24while

00:58:24ok this is my

00:58:26team of the

00:58:26week Tam

00:58:27let me know

00:58:28what your

00:58:29thoughts are

00:58:29on it

00:58:29McCracken

00:58:30in goal

00:58:31Luke Graham

00:58:32Halkett

00:58:33Clark Robertson

00:58:34and then the

00:58:34midfield four

00:58:35I've gone for

00:58:36Congreve the

00:58:37Dundee boy

00:58:38with the left

00:58:38peg

00:58:38Beningame

00:58:39Sybould

00:58:40Andre Wright

00:58:41they cause Celtic

00:58:42all sorts of

00:58:42problems

00:58:43and I've put

00:58:44Lazatic in for

00:58:44the goal

00:58:45Kludgey and

00:58:46Braga

00:58:47no Celtic

00:58:49players

00:58:49three weeks

00:58:50in the trot

00:58:50no Celtic

00:58:51or Rangers

00:58:51that just

00:58:53sums up how

00:58:54poor they've

00:58:55been recently

00:58:55I don't mind

00:58:57spreading it

00:58:58about

00:58:58I don't think

00:59:00it was anybody

00:59:01Celtic or Rangers

00:59:02player

00:59:02maybe Asgard

00:59:03to be fair

00:59:04in terms of

00:59:05his goals

00:59:05his goal is

00:59:05tremendous

00:59:06but the thing

00:59:06as I said

00:59:07to you a few

00:59:07weeks ago

00:59:07I watched

00:59:08him play at

00:59:08Wigan as a

00:59:09younger boy

00:59:09and that's what

00:59:10I was seeing

00:59:11on that day

00:59:12he was very

00:59:12direct

00:59:13he was getting

00:59:13after people

00:59:14he was getting

00:59:14shots off

00:59:15up until that

00:59:16weekend there

00:59:17I've yet to

00:59:17see him get

00:59:17after anyone

00:59:18and it almost

00:59:19looked as if

00:59:19there was a

00:59:20different position

00:59:20where he was

00:59:21playing more

00:59:21advanced

00:59:21ok Thursday

00:59:23Brand vs Rangers

00:59:24Celtic vs

00:59:25Sturm Graz

00:59:26AEK at Athens

00:59:26vs Aberdeen

00:59:27just before we

00:59:28talk about the

00:59:29potential of

00:59:30what's going to

00:59:30happen

00:59:30Alec give us

00:59:32your immediate

00:59:32reaction now

00:59:33to Danny

00:59:35Roll's appointment

00:59:36and what you

00:59:37think he's going

00:59:38to have to do

00:59:39in the first

00:59:40game in Europe

00:59:40what's the

00:59:41immediate reaction

00:59:42listen it's

00:59:43almost I get

00:59:43the feeling

00:59:44and I don't

00:59:44mean this

00:59:44disrespectful

00:59:45it's almost

00:59:45as if it's

00:59:46the last man

00:59:46standing

00:59:47they had to

00:59:48get someone

00:59:48in that's a

00:59:49couple of

00:59:49weeks now

00:59:50they need a

00:59:51little bit of

00:59:51stability

00:59:52he needs to

00:59:53get in there

00:59:54and get to

00:59:54work with

00:59:54this group

00:59:55and figure

00:59:56out for him

00:59:56what is his

00:59:57best shape

00:59:58with that

00:59:59personnel going

01:00:00forward

01:00:00because as I

01:00:02said I think

01:00:03he's got a

01:00:03couple of

01:00:04really tough

01:00:04games I don't

01:00:05think Bran

01:00:05will be easy

01:00:05I think that

01:00:06will be a

01:00:07tough encounter

01:00:07the European

01:00:08performances

01:00:09haven't been

01:00:09that close

01:00:10whereas that's

01:00:11one of the

01:00:12competitions

01:00:12they have

01:00:13been clinging

01:00:13on to in

01:00:14recent years

01:00:14and then

01:00:15he has to

01:00:16get them

01:00:16back

01:00:16go again

01:00:18on Sunday

01:00:19versus

01:00:20Camarnock

01:00:20who are a

01:00:21decent enough

01:00:21team

01:00:22well organised

01:00:22so to answer

01:00:24your question

01:00:24he needs to

01:00:25get them

01:00:25organised

01:00:25as quite

01:00:26less possible

01:00:26get a bit

01:00:28more unity

01:00:29within that

01:00:29squad

01:00:30because clearly

01:00:30you've got

01:00:31senior players

01:00:32coming out

01:00:32and calling

01:00:32out players

01:00:33going

01:00:33they need

01:00:34to show

01:00:34a little bit

01:00:34more bottle

01:00:35for a better

01:00:36word

01:00:36and they have

01:00:37to be united

01:00:38going forward

01:00:39because for me

01:00:40it looked as

01:00:40if it's a

01:00:41group

01:00:41it's a bit

01:00:42fragmented

01:00:42I don't see

01:00:43a team

01:00:43that's united

01:00:44where you look

01:00:45at hearts

01:00:45at the top

01:00:46of the table

01:00:46they look as

01:00:47if everybody's

01:00:48buying in

01:00:48the subs

01:00:49are buying in

01:00:49I don't quite

01:00:50see that

01:00:50at Rangers

01:00:51at the moment

01:00:51are we looking

01:00:58again

01:00:58at more

01:00:59miserable

01:01:00performances

01:01:00and three

01:01:01defeats

01:01:01for the

01:01:02Scottish

01:01:02side

01:01:02come on

01:01:03Ruffy

01:01:03no I think

01:01:05Celtic will

01:01:05get something

01:01:05what a draw

01:01:06no I think

01:01:08they'll win

01:01:08ok

01:01:08Sam

01:01:09Rangers draw

01:01:12Celtic win

01:01:13Aberdeen

01:01:14draw

01:01:15ok

01:01:16I'll go

01:01:18Bran to

01:01:19win

01:01:19Celtic to

01:01:20draw

01:01:21and

01:01:21AEK

01:01:22Athens

01:01:22to beat

01:01:23Aberdeen

01:01:23a really

01:01:24positive outlook

01:01:25yeah

01:01:25absolutely

01:01:26just to finish

01:01:27by the way

01:01:27before you

01:01:28obviously

01:01:29gloat

01:01:31on

01:01:32Partick Thistle

01:01:32now closing

01:01:33in in St Johnston

01:01:34can I just get

01:01:35your thoughts

01:01:36on Maranakis

01:01:3739 days

01:01:388 games in

01:01:38charge

01:01:39lost 31

01:01:41won 13

01:01:42of his last

01:01:4350 Premiership

01:01:44games

01:01:44and Ange

01:01:45Postacoglu

01:01:46sacked

01:01:48yeah

01:01:49it's

01:01:50it's mind boggling

01:01:51and you're

01:01:51absolutely right

01:01:52I'm not exactly

01:01:53sure that

01:01:53this is a thing

01:01:54for all of the

01:01:55English Premiership

01:01:56but this

01:01:57particular owner

01:01:58you've seen it

01:01:59last year

01:01:59when he was

01:02:00chasing down

01:02:00Champions League

01:02:02with Nuno

01:02:03Nuno yes

01:02:03chasing down

01:02:04the park

01:02:04and then you

01:02:05get him on

01:02:05the park

01:02:06and things

01:02:06I don't think

01:02:07optic

01:02:08look wise

01:02:09it looks

01:02:10particularly good

01:02:10that an owner

01:02:11is on there

01:02:11arguing with

01:02:12the manager

01:02:12on the pitch

01:02:13and at that

01:02:14particular time

01:02:15automatically

01:02:16you're thinking

01:02:17he's a dead man

01:02:18walking

01:02:18partly because

01:02:19this guy

01:02:20doesn't have

01:02:20any issues

01:02:21he just goes

01:02:21out

01:02:22and when you

01:02:23look at the

01:02:23way that Ange

01:02:24had started

01:02:24and even

01:02:26some of the

01:02:27I like

01:02:28Postacoglu

01:02:28I actually like

01:02:29his fighting spirit

01:02:30and it's almost

01:02:31as if he's

01:02:31having to try

01:02:32and sell his

01:02:32sell to people

01:02:33and it's a guy

01:02:34that wins trophies

01:02:34we talk about trophies

01:02:35so this guy

01:02:36has got confidence

01:02:37he says let me

01:02:37just do my thing

01:02:38but unfortunately

01:02:39when you've got

01:02:40an owner

01:02:40in hindsight

01:02:42it might have

01:02:43been a good

01:02:43payday for Ange

01:02:44just to get in

01:02:44and out

01:02:45but see for the

01:02:46experience

01:02:47with the money

01:02:48that these guys

01:02:49have got

01:02:49I think you

01:02:49maybe look back

01:02:50at that

01:02:50and go

01:02:51that might have

01:02:51not been a good

01:02:52fit for me

01:02:53to go in

01:02:53at Knott Forest

01:02:53even though

01:02:54it's a brilliant

01:02:54club

01:02:55yeah absolutely

01:02:56I think the game's

01:02:58changing for the

01:02:59worst

01:02:59roughy

01:03:01again

01:03:02I keep saying

01:03:03Alex touched on

01:03:04it briefly

01:03:05foreign owners

01:03:07have a different

01:03:08mindset than

01:03:09the football people

01:03:10that we used to

01:03:11work with

01:03:12they put the money

01:03:14in and they

01:03:14control the whole

01:03:15thing

01:03:15see the English

01:03:16Premiership

01:03:17here's a question

01:03:19somebody might be

01:03:19able to tell us

01:03:20this

01:03:20out of the ownership

01:03:21of the 20 clubs

01:03:22in the Premier League

01:03:23they're off

01:03:23foreign owners

01:03:24yeah absolutely

01:03:25the whole thing

01:03:26is now a business

01:03:27and a lucrative

01:03:28business at that

01:03:29and the demands

01:03:30to get an immediate

01:03:31success

01:03:32is proving

01:03:34costly for some

01:03:35managers

01:03:36can't even get

01:03:3610 games

01:03:37can't even get

01:03:38longer than

01:03:392 months

01:03:40in a job

01:03:40it's not

01:03:42what you want

01:03:43to see

01:03:43anyway I'm sure

01:03:44Ange once he

01:03:45licks his wounds

01:03:46hits the 4 digits

01:03:47on his

01:03:48current account

01:03:49you know what

01:03:50I'll get a job

01:03:52sooner or later

01:03:52somewhere else

01:03:53anyway

01:03:54listen it's been

01:03:55action packed

01:03:56Danny Roll

01:03:57is the new

01:03:58Rangers manager

01:03:58on a two and a

01:03:59half year deal

01:03:59and we will wait

01:04:02to hear what he

01:04:02has to say

01:04:03at his first

01:04:04press conference

01:04:05but right now

01:04:07I'm going to go

01:04:08out get the

01:04:09heart socks

01:04:09and then

01:04:10contemplate the

01:04:12shorts and the

01:04:12top if all

01:04:14roads lead to

01:04:15Tyne Castle

01:04:16on Sunday

01:04:161986 all over

01:04:17it again

01:04:18yeah okay

01:04:19let's hope

01:04:20there's not a

01:04:21flu epidemic

01:04:22and don't

01:04:22forget

01:04:23Tam's got his

01:04:23Twitter

01:04:24you can

01:04:24leather him

01:04:24for that

01:04:25last line

01:04:25thanks to

01:04:26Ruffy

01:04:26thanks to

01:04:27Alec Ray

01:04:28and to

01:04:28Tam

01:04:29and to

01:04:29myself

01:04:29Peter

01:04:30Martin

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