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SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES WITH MARIA BARTIROMO (Full Episode) | October 19, 2025
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00:00Good Sunday morning, everyone. Welcome to Sunday Morning Futures. Thanks so much for joining us
00:11this morning. I'm Maria Bartiromo. Today, President Trump, the president for peace,
00:17nine months into his second term, the commander in chief is taking on the ruthless, the criminal,
00:22and the biggest terrorists of all. From narco terrorists in Venezuela and Mexico to bullies
00:28and killers in Russia and Gaza. I met with the president this past week in his first interview
00:34since his historic peace deal in the Middle East, where he effectively ended the war in Gaza.
00:39And it was just hours after a two and a half hour phone call he had with Vladimir Putin,
00:45as the president is now turning his sights toward ending the war on Ukraine. But in the middle of
00:51his peace negotiations and a meeting with special envoy Steve Whitkoff, the president first zeroed
00:57in on American families, announcing in the Oval Office more price cuts for prescription drugs
01:02and easier access to fertility medication. I was honored to join the pool reporters in the Oval Office
01:08to hear the president's progress. Oh, look who we have. Look at that. The great Maria Bartiromo.
01:17Well, I didn't know. Did you get put into the regular pool pack? That's very good.
01:23Yeah, that's good. Nice to see you. I was so proud of myself because I was the first president
01:28in 28 years where drug prices went down for the year. And you know what they went down? One eighth
01:33of one percent. But I was so one eighth of one percent. Now I'm getting them down, Maria, 500,
01:40600, 800 percent. And after the press conference, the president joined me in the Roosevelt room,
01:49where he took us behind the scenes of his historic peace deal in the Middle East.
01:56It started probably with Soleimani. He was a mastermind who did a lot of bad things. He's the father of the
02:03roadside bomb that would blow up. And most of the people are great. Patriots are great soldiers
02:10that you see without arms, legs and lots of problems. He was he was the one that was his that
02:15was his way of saying, we don't like you too much and affected a lot of people that started one.
02:22But I think very big was recently with the taking out of the nuclear weapon from Iran when we blew
02:30those beautiful B-2 bombers, when they went into Iran airspace and they came out unscathed. I mean,
02:37the whole thing was the most beautiful military operation. They flew for 37 hours. We had everything.
02:43And they went into that and they bombed the hell out of it. And when we destroyed their nuclear
02:49capability, they no longer became the bully of the Middle East. And we hit them a lot of other ways,
02:56along with Israel. And they no longer became the bully. And if they were, we wouldn't have been able
03:02to make the deal, the deal we just made, which is basically peace in the Middle East beyond Gaza,
03:07peace in the Middle East and all of those great Arab nations. I mean, you look at Saudi Arabia and Qatar
03:15and UAE, those three. And then you have the ones that, as you know, joined the Abraham Accords.
03:21But they were able to breathe. They were able to do what they had to do. And they've been fantastic.
03:29But if we didn't take out the nuclear, there's no way that we would have been able to do this.
03:33And I spoke with you right after that strike on the nuclear facilities. And you were so complimentary,
03:37obviously, of our pilots. But you also have relationships in the Middle East. You went to the
03:43Middle East as your first international trip as president. So was there some cajoling that you did
03:49with the leadership of Qatar and the leadership of UAE to get them to make the case to Hamas,
03:56it's over?
03:57So I've been friendly with them for years. And actually, I became somewhat friendly during my
04:02first term. But I was friendly with some of them before I was a politician. And, you know,
04:07it's vast wealth. Those countries are, you know, incredibly wealthy. And they put out money,
04:14they invest money, et cetera, et cetera. They have tremendous oil wealth. So I knew a lot of them
04:19before. But I got to know them very well during the first term and really well, you know, now. But
04:24I got to know them very well during the first term. Qatar, as an example, the emir, who's a fantastic
04:31man. Tamim. He's like a really fantastic person. And, you know, he's in the middle of a very tough
04:40little area because he's sort of surrounded by every little problem. And he has to play
04:45it close to the vest a little bit. He has to. Anybody would. Anybody that's smart. And he's
04:50very smart. The king of Saudi Arabia has done unbelievable. Now you have the king and then
04:54you have the son who is the king who's fantastic. He's got a son who is phenomenal, who you know.
05:01MBS.
05:01Yes.
05:02MBS.
05:03Mohammed. And Mohammed's going to be a great leader for many years. And then you have UAE.
05:10And he is he's incredible. They're all incredible people. But sometimes people don't realize that.
05:18And they really helped us a lot. Qatar was Qatar is the one that's most, you know, vulnerable
05:25in that sense because it was right next to Iran. But they had great courage. And the bottom
05:31line is we got it done. And we did something that nobody thought was possible. We create
05:35peace in the Middle East. And I think we're going to get Russia done. I think that will
05:39be it's not easy. I thought that would have been the easiest one. I have a good relationship
05:43with President Putin. I've always had. He don't forget, he had to go through the Russia,
05:48Russia, Russia hoax. That made it very difficult for us in terms of trade or other things.
05:53That hoax was just a disgrace. So now we have the war. The first time we had that. And now
05:58we have the war. But there's a great potential for trade there. And I hope that we're going
06:03to be successful. Ukraine has been very brave.
06:06You came at the peace deal with the Qataris as a business person. You were a business person
06:11before the commander in chief. So is that the case you made for the Qataris to explain
06:17it to Hamas? Think prosperity, think peace, think riches, business.
06:21You know, I don't have to make too much of a case because they're very smart people. And
06:25frankly, if Iran stayed strong, stayed, you know, like as a military threat, they would,
06:31I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have even asked them. They would, there's nothing, you know,
06:34it's right, they're neighbors, right? They're right next. You literally would walk into one
06:38or the other. So I didn't, I just, it was really the decimation of Iran that got us there.
06:46Without that, we couldn't have gone to the next step. And then we went to the next step.
06:49And now we have a deal. And I think it's a deal that catches on. It's a deal that's
06:53respected by everybody. We had Arab countries, Muslim countries. We had everybody. Israel
06:59approved this deal. Bibi was very brave. Bibi was a great warrior.
07:05And yet, as soon as you left, Hamas executed seven people. And then they went on to execute
07:1030 more. Do you believe they really will disarm? Well, they promised they would. They said they
07:16would. It's down that they would. Now they said they were gang members, et cetera, et cetera, you know.
07:22But these are very violent people. This is a very violent part of the world. Nobody's seen
07:30violence like this. If we have to, we'll disarm them. The U.S.? Well, whether it's me or the U.S.
07:37or it's, you know, a proxy, could be Israel with our backing, we won't have boots on the ground.
07:44There's no reason to. In the past, you've said Gaza could be beautiful. It could be developed.
07:50And you said you wanted to develop it. Do you have plans for that? Not me as an individual.
07:56The U.S.? I liked it as like Freedom Place. You call it Freedom Place. And we would get all of
08:05the people that live there into decent homes throughout the region. If you look, Egypt has a
08:12lot of land. Jordan has a lot of land, you know, right next door. A lot of countries have a lot of
08:19land. So I had an initial vision that we would get them. Look at look at Gaza. I mean, there's nothing
08:28standard. The whole thing is, it's all rubble. So it's not too hard to top that. And we'd build
08:34houses and would be paid for by the wealth of the, you know, the wealthiest countries are there. Although
08:40if we win the tariff case, which hopefully we will, it's vital to the interests of our country.
08:46We're the wealthiest country there is. If we don't, we'll be struggling for years to come. I've ended,
08:52you know, of the eight wars that we just mentioned, five of them have been ended because of tariffs.
08:59The threat of tariffs, as an example, kept India and Pakistan, two nuclear nations, from going at it.
09:07They were going at it. Seven planes were shot down. That's a lot. And they were going at it. And that
09:13could have been a nuclear war. And the prime minister of Pakistan actually just said Donald Trump,
09:17President Trump saved millions of lives by him getting that. And I said to India and Pakistan,
09:23pretty much the same thing. I said, look, if you're going to fight each other, I'm not going
09:28to do business with you. We're going to put on a 200% tariff, which will make it impossible for you
09:32to deal. And we're not going to do business. No, no, no. They said, no, no. And after 24 hours,
09:39I settled the war because I settled it through trade.
09:43I want to get back to that because I want to talk a little about your backup plan,
09:46should that not go your way. But just to close the loop here. So are there plans for the U.S.
09:51or for yourself to help develop Gaza?
09:55We are going to have a board of peace. You heard about it. And they've asked me to be the chairman.
10:01This is what I needed. But it's very important that that, you know, to me, peace in the Middle East,
10:07that's a big thing. I've heard the name, the term all my life. Peace in the Middle East.
10:11For 3,000 years, it hasn't happened.
10:14When you spoke to Vladimir Putin, did you tell him that you were considering sending
10:19Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine? Are you still seriously considering that?
10:23Well, I've been asked by Ukraine if they could have Tomahawks. And I'm looking at it. I spoke with
10:33Vladimir Putin about it. Not that he would be thrilled. It's a violent, vicious weapon. But we have to
10:40remember one thing. We need them for ourselves, too. You know, we can't give all of our weapons to
10:46Ukraine. We just can't do that. And I've been very good to President Zelensky and to Ukraine. But
10:53we can't we can't give, you know, if we're going to be short, I don't want to do that. I can't
10:58jeopardize the United States. Did you get any sense from Putin that he would be willing or open to the
11:04idea of ending this war without taking significant property from from Ukraine?
11:09Well, he's going to take something. I mean, they fought and he has a lot of property. I mean,
11:14you know, he's one certain property. If you say that he's one certain property. We're the only
11:18nation that goes in and wins a war and then leaves, you know, like we did under President Bush in the
11:24Middle East. We go in, we blast the hell out of everybody, destroy the place and then we leave.
11:30You know, remember, I used to say, keep the oil. But I really didn't say I said two things. I said,
11:34don't go in. But then they went in and I said, well, don't go in. But if you're going to go in,
11:41keep the oil. But we didn't keep the oil. What do we do? We go in, we blast it to pieces
11:46and then we leave. You know, doesn't make sense. Never made sense. Is there a timeline to get Hamas
11:53to disarm in your mind? Not a timeline, not a hard line, but we're going to see how it all works
12:01out. They've lived there for a long time. They're very violent. As you understand, you've been
12:10covering it for a long time, but we're going to find out. Don't forget, 50,000 of them have been
12:16killed. Okay. So they killed 1,200 people in horrible, the October 7th attack. It was an attack.
12:24They killed 1,200. But Israel can say that we killed 50,000. And so you'd say it's a whole new
12:33set of people. And it is. I mean, you know, they get replaced by other people, young people. But we're
12:39going to find out. So it's not a hard timeline, but it's a line in my own mind. And at a certain
12:45point, if they don't do what they're supposed to do, then we'll have to do it for them.
12:51Do you expect an expansion of the Abraham Accords? I do. Almost soon. I don't want to use the word
12:58immediate, but soon. The Abraham Accords are a miracle in a way. And the four countries that went
13:06in initially, including UAE, highly respected, big and highly respected, they stayed in and they're
13:15doing incredibly well. I mean, they're basically trading with Israel and have access and everything
13:20else. I mean, good for everybody. I hope to see Saudi Arabia go in and I hope to see others go in.
13:27I think when Saudi Arabia goes in, everybody goes in, highly respected. And the crown prince,
13:34who's also the prime minister and the king in waiting, his father's such a wonderful man. He's
13:40still, he's still healthy and he's still very sharp. But yeah, I think, I think that they're
13:47going to all go in very soon. So they've indicated to you a willingness to do so.
13:51Oh, they have even as recently as like yesterday. I had some very good conversations. Now they
13:57couldn't have done it during the war. They couldn't have done it with the fight with, you know, the fight
14:03that was going on with Iran as a power. With Iran as a power, that's why the four original countries
14:09really, they were somewhat courageous of them. And they did it with Iran as a power
14:14and they made the right decision. And then they stayed during the war. A lot of people thought
14:19they'd have to get out. Now the Abraham Accords are amazing. It's really, it's amazing. And it'll help
14:26bring long lasting peace in the, into the Middle East. Nobody thought they were possible either, but
14:32the big thing is what happened over the last few days. It's been pretty much incredible. Just like
14:38your ratings are incredible. It's been incredible. That's wonderful, Mr. President. Now the Biden
14:43administration is saying that they're taking credit for the peace plan. Anthony Blinken said that
14:49they laid the groundwork for the peace deal before leaving office. So let me just tell you how crazy
14:55it is. They backed Iran. They backed Iran totally. They deserted Israel. They deserted
15:01everybody and they backed Iran. You know that. It started with Barack Hussein Obama. He went into Iran
15:07and let's say that their idea worked. Then you would have right now a nuclear powered Iran because
15:14Iran was on its way to a nuclear weapon under these people. And so when we do it, rather than saying,
15:21although they did say congratulations, I mean, Biden said it, Hillary Clinton said it, a lot of people
15:26said it. Uh, the only one that I heard say that was Blinken and Blinken didn't, you know, he wasn't
15:31good at what he did. He was a lousy negotiator. And, uh, for him to try and take care, just so you said,
15:38they did the exact opposite. They didn't say groundwork. They said the opposite of groundwork.
15:44They said traps because they wanted, and they felt strongly that they wanted to back Iran over the rest of
15:53the Middle East. And they did it with Obama and they did it with Biden. Now Biden didn't know what
15:59the hell he was doing. So it didn't matter. But his people that surrounded him in the Oval Office,
16:04the people that worked the auto pen, the people that signed all those signatures illegally because
16:09he had no idea what was going on. So all those signatures that were signed, except his son's
16:14signature, I think he signed for Hunter. I think that was actually, because it wasn't nearly as neat
16:19as the auto pen. The auto pen was much better.
16:25Coming up, a spiking aggression from Communist China and the president's response. Stay with
16:30us for more of my exclusive interview with President Trump, right here, next.
16:37I'm wondering what China is thinking right now. Did Xi Jinping congratulate you about the
16:42success of the peace deal?
16:43Well, I heard he did. There was a statement put up, but I'm meeting with him in two weeks.
16:50Because in the middle of it all, he squeezed the U.S. by tightening the export controls on
16:52rare earth minerals.
16:53He did. And I raised our tariffs to 100 percent on top of what they're already paying, which
17:01is far worse, far worse. We'll see what happens with China. I've always had a great relationship
17:07with him, as you know. But they're always looking for an edge. You know, they ripped off our country
17:15for years. We're going to meet in a couple of weeks. We're going to meet in South Korea,
17:19actually, with President Xi and other people, too. But we're going to meet. We have separate
17:23meetings set up.
17:25If you put that 100 percent tariff on top of what's in place already, you're talking about
17:29157 percent tariff on China. Can that stand? What is that going to do to the economy?
17:34It's not sustainable, but that's what the number is. It's probably not. You know, it could stand.
17:43But they forced me to do that. I think we're going to do fine with China. I get along great with
17:50him. He's a very strong leader, a very, you know, amazing man. You look at what he's done
17:56and what he's, you know, where he's his life is an amazing story. It's a story for a great movie.
18:03I think we're going to be fine with China, but we have to have a fair deal. It's got to be fair.
18:08And you cover it as well as anybody that's ever covered this subject. You know, it's a very complex
18:14subject. But China has ripped us off from day one. And, you know, Richard Nixon,
18:20he allowed, he allowed this to happen. You know, he was the one he opened China. And I said,
18:28is that good or bad? You tell me. He unleashed it. And we have a very strong adversary.
18:36And they only respect strength.
18:38Mr. President, you came into office with a real vision. You wanted supply chains in America
18:43on the rare earth minerals thing. I know that there are rare earth minerals, but it's the
18:47refining of the minerals that China has a lock on. How did we get here? I mean, for 10 years,
18:52you've been attacked by your enemies, political enemies, the Democrats, who've tried to take you
18:57down for 10 years. Russia, Russia, Russia. And yet, all this time, China has been eating our
19:02lunch. Now, 90% of the pharmaceuticals that we need, underlying components are made in China.
19:08It's all coming back. So how did we get here? You know, it's all coming back.
19:11Well, how long is it going to take? How long is it going to take to get the supply chains?
19:14The pharmaceuticals are coming back already. Again, tariffs. So essentially, I'm putting tariffs
19:22on pharmaceuticals unless they're made here. They're all coming back. Chips. I put big tariffs
19:29on chips unless they're made here. There's no tariff if they make them here. And all those companies
19:34are coming back from Taiwan. They're coming back from all over the world. And they're
19:38coming back fast. You know better than anybody else. $17 trillion. It could be $20 trillion
19:44by the end of the first year, my first year.
19:47You mean the investment in America?
19:49Investing in America. $20 trillion. No country's ever done anywhere even near that,
19:56like a fraction of that. Biden did less than $1 trillion in four years. I did $20 trillion.
20:01We're going to do over $17 trillion in eight months. By the time we end, we could do over
20:08$20 trillion. There's never in China, no matter where you go, there's never been anything like
20:13it. We are building up something that's unbelievable. And a big part of that are the tariffs because
20:21they don't want to have to pay the tariffs because it's so unsustainable that they come
20:25and build the pharmaceuticals and the chips and all the things. They're coming into the United States
20:31and they're building them. It's a miracle what's happening. We are building the greatest country
20:36in the world, economically greater than we've ever been before. But we do have a big decision.
20:42And that decision is coming up in the Supreme Court. And again, this is being fought by radical
20:48left lunatics that don't even know what they're doing and people that represent foreign countries
20:54that have taken advantage of us for years. You know, tariffs have been used against the United
20:58States for years. And it would always bother me so much. I'd look and I'd see and say,
21:05how can they allow this to happen to our country? We lost 55% of our automobile business because of
21:11because of the fact we didn't use tariffs. Had we used tariffs, we wouldn't have lost anything.
21:16What is your backup plan should the Supreme Court decision go against you on the tariffs and the
21:20emergency? Well, I'll have to figure something out. I don't want to even think about it. We're doing
21:24so well to think about it. You know, if that happened, we'd have to pay back money. So if anything
21:30would happen with that, that would mean they're allowed to use tariffs and we're not. If they took
21:35away, this is national security. If they took away tariffs, then they've taken away our national
21:41security. Well, you've also been monetizing the balance sheet and you took a 10% stake in Intel,
21:46taking a stake in Mountain Pass, MP. Do you know that Intel, I think we're up $40 billion since I
21:53made the deal, made a big deal. And I didn't put it for myself. I did it. They came in to see me and
21:59I say, you know what? I think the United States should own 10% of your company. And they gave me
22:0310%. And you know what? It's been good for them too. Their stock has gone up so much that they end up
22:08making a fortune. But we made $30 or $40 billion on that deal. And the same thing with
22:13that Mountain Pass. But in that case, it's because we want to get the rare earth refined.
22:19Yeah. I mean, it was a national security emergency. Or are you looking to take stakes in other
22:25companies for other reasons? Well, I'll give you an example. In Alaska,
22:28they have a road that we just approved, right? That was a big deal. They've been trying to get it
22:34done for, you know, like forever. They can never get it done. And it's a very simple deal. So here
22:39comes the road. And at the end of the road is vast wealth that's owned by big companies,
22:44vast wealth, minerals. And I said, they came in with an agreement allowing the road to be built
22:51environmentally, everything else, very complicated. We're going to build bridges. We're going to...
22:56I said, so what are we getting out of it? Sure, you're getting minerals. I know, but
23:00we're opening up this part of the world that we're unable to even get to except by a helicopter.
23:07We're building a massive road. They're building it. We're making it possible to build.
23:13I said, so if we're making it possible to build, we should get a percentage of the things that are
23:19taken out. And my people looked at me and said, gee, I never thought of that. I thought of that
23:24because you have to see this. Unbelievable wealth, unobtainable. You can't get... We make it,
23:30you know, we make it easily available. We're building a gravel, massive, hundreds of miles
23:35long, a gravel road into this incredible place of rare earth. And I said, we should own a part of
23:43that company. And then I do that and people criticize me. That's not the American way. It is
23:48actually the American way. And our country, we're going to be the richest country in the world.
23:56We just have to go this way. And all we need is a series of smart presidents. We can't have people
24:03like Biden or Kamala, people like that, low IQ people. We need smart presidents. And if we have
24:09smart presidents, the United States will be the richest, the richest country ever in history.
24:18Coming up, we are entering a new week of the government shutdown. Now into day 19,
24:24the president outlines the impact on the economy when we come back.
24:33Welcome back. Protesters in Washington and across the country yesterday, as Democrats try to cause
24:38chaos to push back on President Trump's agenda. The No Kings rally, funded largely by George
24:44Soros' Open Society Foundation, with more than $7 million awarded in grants to that group behind
24:51this particular protest. Despite the commander-in-chief's massive success these last nine months,
24:56his opponents in the Democrat Party refused to support the Republicans' efforts to reopen government
25:01as we now enter day 19 of a government shutdown. The president has freed up funding streams for
25:07numerous critical programs, including funding the military and other pay for federal workers to
25:12be paid this week, despite the shutdown. But the ability to do so lessens the longer that this
25:18stalemate goes on. More now from the president on the impact.
25:24I know that things feel like they're going well, but we don't have any data.
25:27The government is shut down. How long is this going to last?
25:31Look, the Democrats are kamikazes right now. They're kamikaze pilots right now. They have nothing going.
25:37They have no future. They have incompetent candidates. I mean, I looked at Crockett,
25:43Jasmine Crockett. She's a low, very low IQ person. She's polling okay in the Democrat Party. I can't even
25:50believe it. AOC is, I watched her the other day. It's like, you got to be kidding. This is not going
26:00to make our country great. And for us to have a communist mayor, it looks like we're going to a New
26:04York. He's not a socialist. He's a communist. And it'll be very interesting. But remember this.
26:10Are you going to endorse anybody in New York?
26:11Well, Cuomo or Sliwa? Yeah, I guess I haven't made a decision, really.
26:19Sounds like you're leaning towards somebody. Well, I think it's not good to have a communist,
26:23okay? Would I rather have a Democrat than a communist? Barely. They're almost becoming the
26:29same thing. What about a Republican, Curtis Sliwa? Well, you know, look, I mean, I don't know.
26:37He's a Republican. Is he really a Republican? You know, am I a big fan? This isn't exactly
26:42ideal where he wants to make Gracie Manchin a home for the cats. You know, Gracie Manchin
26:48is a magnificent home of Fiorello, LaGuardia, and the great mayors, Rudy Giuliani. Yeah, Rudy
26:55Giuliani was the greatest mayor in the history of New York. He did a great job. He went through
27:01hell. So I'll make a decision. Soon? Yeah, I guess. It's only three weeks away. The mayor's
27:08race is three weeks away. Look, I don't know that I've got to get involved. I don't want
27:12to be endorsing Democrats as an example. It's not my thing. But would you rather endorse a
27:17Democrat than a communist? Barely, because they're almost the same thing. Well, Mom, Donnie
27:22was on Fox the other day, and he would not give you credit for the peace deal. He said it's
27:25too early to tell. I watched him a couple of times be interviewed, and he's pretty slick.
27:34But he doesn't have what it takes. He doesn't have what it takes. The city will be in big
27:42trouble. Mr. President, do you think that the government shutdown is all about this rally
27:46that's happening this weekend, the no kings rally? No. I mean, some people say they want
27:50to delay it for that. A king. This is not a king. It's more than that. You know, they're
27:56saying, they're referring to me as a king. I'm not a king. Right. No, but just so that
27:59Chuck Schumer could go and say, I'm fighting Trump. Well, Chuck is, you know, at the end
28:02of the line. He's being beaten by everybody that they poll against him. And, you know, what
28:08he did is he did the right thing a couple of years ago on something like this. And he got
28:14hurt by his party. And it doesn't, I don't think it matters to him. I think he's just
28:20so dead that he'll do anything. I think they could just stay out forever. I mean, to be
28:25honest with you. Now, what we're doing is we're cutting Democrat programs that we didn't want
28:29because, I mean, they made one mistake. They didn't realize that that gives me the right
28:34to cut programs that Republicans never wanted. You know, giveaways, welfare programs, et cetera.
28:40And we're doing that. And we're cutting them permanently. We're cutting a $20 billion project
28:45that Schumer fought for 15 years to get. And I'm cutting the project. The project is going
28:51to be dead. It's just pretty much dead right now. Well, how significant will the layoffs
28:55be? Because now you've got a federal judge trying to stop you there as well, saying that
28:59any layoffs during a temporary shutdown is illegal. These judges, I'm telling you, it's so terrible
29:05what's happening with the judges. When we want to go into a city to save the city, look
29:11at what we did in D.C. Washington, D.C. was a death trap. People would come from Iowa and
29:17Idaho and Florida, and they end up going home in a casket, right? They were killed. Now
29:25it's the safest city in the country. It took me 12 days to make it that way, 30 days to make
29:30it really good, 12 days to make it very good. And I'll tell you what, it's, it's, I'm so
29:38proud of the city. Do you see the way the city looks?
29:41It feels different, Mr. President. You're right. I mean, Union Station was totally clean.
29:43Even the grass is growing properly.
29:45And Union Station looked good.
29:46Union Station is a dream. It's a beautiful place. You couldn't walk through Union Station
29:52without getting accosted or mugged or hit over the head with a bat. We moved out 1,700 career
29:59criminals and criminals from other countries that came in through Biden's open border.
30:04You know, the worst thing that Biden did, and I don't really think it was him. I think it
30:08was, he's not an open border person. He doesn't, I don't, I really don't believe it. It's, he's
30:14surrounded, he was surrounded by radical left lunatics who are smart. And yet they've been
30:20after me for so many years. And how am I doing? Yeah, I'm president. Here we are in the White
30:24House. Are we in the White House? I think so, right?
30:26So we want to go in and do what we did in D.C. So we're in Chicago now. We're being met
30:32with, by the way, the people love us. The people want us there. I said, beautiful black
30:39women wearing MAGA caps all over the city. It's the most incredible thing. I love it.
30:44And they're all, you know, there's like MAGA. I think you had them on your program.
30:48They're MAGA all over the place. But the governor who got thrown out of his business by his family
30:53because he's a dope. But the governor, Pritzker, he doesn't want us in. You know, if I were him,
31:00if I were a Democrat and I were him, I'd say, come on in. What do you have to lose?
31:06And you're going to go to San Francisco next.
31:07We're going to go to San Francisco. The difference is I think they want us in San Francisco.
31:12San Francisco was truly one of the great cities of the world. And then 15 years ago,
31:19it went wrong. It went woke. Remember my statement? Anything woke is, and I used a filthy, well,
31:27broke is another word. I used a filthy word, but I didn't, I took enough heat on that. I won't say
31:31it again, but it's true. I mean, nothing changes, right? But we're going to go to San Francisco
31:35and we're going to make it great. We're going to make it great. It'll be great. Again,
31:40San Francisco is a great city. It won't be great if it keeps going like this. Chicago's another one.
31:46So the head of the Union Pacific, who you probably had on your show, he started off as like a
31:50conductor and now he's the chairman. Sort of a great city. His father worked for the railroad,
31:54the Union Pacific, great, great company. And he was in my office and I talked to him because he
31:59knows all the cities. He said, sir, save Chicago. It's a great city. We're going to lose Chicago,
32:06save Chicago. That was two months ago. And I said, let's do it. And I met with like this legal
32:15force and don't forget, and I haven't used it, but don't forget, I can use the Insurrection Act.
32:2450% of the presidents almost have used that. And that's unquestioned power. I choose not to,
32:31I'd rather do this, but I'm met constantly by, uh, fake politicians, politicians that think that,
32:40you know, it's not like a part of the radical left movement to have safety. These cities have to be
32:47safe. Our cities that are Democrat run exclusively, just about are unsafe cities. They're a disaster.
32:57And I'm going to save the cities. You know, I didn't run on that. I ran on crime, but I didn't run on
33:01straightening out the city. Coming up, smears, surveillance, indictments, potential conspiracy,
33:10the president's reaction to all the dirty political tricks used against him for 10 plus years and the
33:15impact on America. Stay with us. Aren't you going to have to compromise on something around
33:26health care subsidies to end this thing? I don't know. Here's the problem. They want to give one point.
33:31They have a deal. We have a deal. We just want an extension. And the reason we want an extension is
33:37because you can't make a deal with these people. They're lunatics. They've gone crazy. They're crazed
33:41people. Trump derangement syndrome. There really is that disease. At first I found it to be amusing. Now I find
33:48there really is. They want $1.5 trillion for health care for illegal aliens that come into our country.
33:58If we do that, it will jeopardize the health care of the citizens of our country. So we're not going
34:04to do that. And on China, you've got a lot of economic levers to pull. You've got all those
34:09Chinese companies trading on our exchanges. I have a lot to pull. I don't want to. I'm not looking to
34:14destroy China. I'm not looking to destroy China. But, you know, China's taken out hundreds of
34:21trillions. I mean, trillions of dollars, not hundreds. Over the years, trillions of dollars.
34:27China has built their military because of us. China has taken out trillions and trillions of dollars.
34:33And then I came along my first term, as you know, I took out hundreds of billions of dollars from
34:38China. You know, I tariffed China. And Biden left them, except he made so many exceptions, it didn't
34:44matter. But I tariffed China. I took in hundreds of billions of dollars from China. And now they
34:51forced me to charge them what is the equivalent of 155 to 157 percent.
34:57But they need our capital markets. I mean, we're funding the expansion of these companies tied to
35:02the military. I think they do. But look, they have a very smart leader. And I think we have a leader that
35:07wants to make a deal because I think that's smart and he's smart. So we'll see what happens. You know,
35:13I'm meeting with him in two weeks. We're going to see what happens. Final question on the surveillance that has
35:16gone on. I mean, we've got reports that Congress collected 30 million lines of phone data during the
35:22January 6th investigation. They tapped the phones of eight sitting lawmakers. What can you do to prevent
35:29this kind of surveillance? And how high up the chain did this go? I think it went right up to the top. And I think it
35:36started with Obama, with Comey going up and giving me a briefing in 2016, 2015, the end of 2015 and 2016.
35:48And then I said to him, who knows about this? He said, President Obama, his wife and Joe Biden.
35:54They sat in the Oval Office talking about it. But it went all the way through. Obama was involved.
36:01Biden was involved, everybody. And then they got this guy, deranged Jack Smith, a lunatic.
36:07And they put him in because he was the meanest prosecutor you could find.
36:11He was sort of a failed prosecutor because he failed a lot of he'd fail because he'd always go too far.
36:17And now he really went too far. And we'll see. But you had eight senators and I guess a couple of
36:24congressmen and some other people. But you had maybe worse than that, you had a house rated
36:31of the ex-president of the United States who actually won the second election by a lot.
36:36Were they looking for that report on Russia collusion?
36:40I heard that they were looking because they thought there was a report bad about them.
36:44They thought I had it, which I didn't have. I didn't have anything of any merit. But they were looking.
36:49And I also had the Presidential Records Act. You know, I had the right to have all this stuff.
36:53I had the right to have it. Only the president has that right. The vice president doesn't have
36:58that right. But the president does. But they were looking for bad. They thought I had bad things on
37:04them because they knew how bad they were. So if they weren't bad, they wouldn't have known that.
37:08Do you expect there will be charges that there was a conspiracy against you?
37:11I don't know about charges. You know, I'm allowed to be involved in this. I'm the
37:17chief law enforcement officer of the United States. You know that, right? A lot of people say,
37:22oh, he's the president. He should know. I'm the chief law enforcement. I'm allowed to be involved
37:26in it. But I haven't chosen to. I think Pam is doing a very good job. I think cash is really
37:33coming onto his own. It's a field that he's very good at. I think they have some people that are
37:39very good. We're going to see what happens. I see I just and again, I didn't know what was happening.
37:45But I see John Bolton just got indicted. That's a good thing. He's a bad guy. I don't know what
37:49he did. But that's a bad. He's a bad guy. Stupid kind of a guy, actually. You know,
37:55he helped me, though, I must say, when I brought him into a room and I was negotiating like with
37:59Putin or this one or Kim Jong Un or whoever, when they saw Bolton, they gave me everything.
38:05You know why? Because they thought it meant war because he was crazy. All he wanted to do is drop bombs
38:10on people. He's one of the people that convinced Bush to go into the Middle East. And I understand
38:15why. The guy was just sort of, I thought he was a crazed person. When in doubt, drop bombs on
38:22everybody. When in doubt, kill people. But having him stand, he never talked much. He almost never
38:28talked, come to think of it. But having him stand there with a big mustache, these people that I was
38:35fighting, they looked at him and they said, oh, man, let's give up to Trump because this guy's crazy.
38:40Bolton is crazy and we'll end up in a war. I want so much stuff. But despite that,
38:48he was a bad guy. I don't know what he did. It must be pretty severe. But whatever it is,
38:54let the courts decide. And all of these indictments caused Obama the other day on a podcast to say
39:00that right now democracy is being threatened. Yeah, I know. He says that all the time. He's the one that
39:05threatened it by spying on my campaign. He started it. Obama spied on my campaign.
39:12And he did it knowing it was illegal. He knew it was illegal. But he started the whole thing.
39:18And there were a lot of dishonest people. And I suspect they'll be caught.
39:21Mr. President, thank you.
39:29Welcome back. Tomorrow will mark exactly nine months since President Trump began his second term,
39:35so far with great success, having already achieved much of what he campaigned on,
39:39despite massive pushback from his critics. The nation's border crossings now at the lowest level
39:43since 1970. The president's peace through strength approach to conflict across the world,
39:48settling a total of eight wars with now a renewed focus on ending the war between Russia and Ukraine.
39:54Inflation plummeting from Joe Biden's 40-year highs. Safety and security returning to our nation's big
40:00cities. Wealth returning to America with some $17 trillion in new investment into the country as
40:06corporate America breaks ground on new supply chains and manufacturing in America,
40:10so the U.S. is less reliant on our number one adversary, communist China. All of this,
40:15as the president told us, in the name of national security. And yet the near-term road ahead will be
40:20critical to the president's continued success with the Supreme Court deciding on the U.S.'s use
40:25of tariffs for an emergency at a hearing coming up on November 5th. Meanwhile, the rest of the world
40:31is the free world has been quietly supporting and electing candidates who are adopting the Trump agenda
40:36throughout Europe, the Middle East and Asia, as new questions arise on whether the Democrats' focus
40:41on keeping their grip on power will collide with President Trump's focus on American families
40:47and the rest of the world's adoption of the Trump agenda. My thanks to President Trump for this
40:51wide-ranging conversation. And I'll have more tomorrow morning on Mornings with Maria for my
40:55exclusive interview. Join me on Fox Business. Have a great rest of the weekend and a safe one.
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