Feddit.onlineFrance AI company Mistral invests $1.4 billion in data centres in Sweden
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Great news! I just hope we have enough energy to support them… 🥶
lime!we do. this datacenter is in my backyard, as is four hydro plants. we don’t have an energy deficit, we just don’t have the infrastructure to move the energy to where it needs to be. thus, datacenter in random small town.
This is some bullshit that’s going to wreak havoc on the already strained energy price crisis we have in Sweden. People in the north are paying upward of almost two thousand dollars a month for electricity during the winter months. It’s insane to now see Sweden as some sort of energy haven. Downright irresponsible.
the sudden upswing in prices up north is due to a newly opened export link to finland. this dc is not up north.
fact is we’re in line with most of europe price-wise, which is a recent change from the extremely low prices we used to have. this is because of increased connectivity and due to our generation becoming more swingy as we transition to more wind. but we still have a big surplus overall.
what should really scare you is the planned implementation of the eu-mandated “effektavgifter”.
Right but if a bunch of data centers are starting to be built in Sweden, the south is going to want even more electricity from the north.
The effektavgifter are also of the devil, yes.
a bunch? where are the others?
Damn, it must be bad if they’re paying in dollars instead of Swedish Krona
Ha.
I just translated it to dollars since it’s more easily comparable for international reading.
You sure you didn’t mean krona? Because 2000 Krona is a lot but sounds easy more realistic than 2000 dollars, considering the conversion rates.
For anyone here that doesn’t know:
100 SEK = 9.50 Euro
100 SEK = 8.92 USD
People in Norrbotten are paying 16k+ SEK for January’s electrical bill, one person paid over 17k. Which is almost 2000 US dollars.
No, he means dollars. 2000 SEK is pretty much what I pay per month for the really cheap summer months in southern Sweden. Last month I paid closer to 10 000 SEK.
As I understand, renewable energy is booming here in Europe, so it should probably be okay.
Tell that to my electricity bill. Last month cost roughly 1000 €. Living in southern Sweden.
What are you powering with that? Mine was 35€ in Denmark, though I live in a two bedroom apartment.
That’s rough, considering your energy mix. I suppose you’re paying market prices and there were some spikes, right? While I’m at it, here I have district heating (50 to 70 kWh a day in the coldest months) and gas for cooking (🤦♂️), and my family’s electricity usage sits around 10 kWh a day. What is a typical usage there?
Awesome. I’ve been using Mistral a lot for my own projects lately. It’s not quite as fire-and-forget as the more advanced ones but with reasonably small beads tasks and frequent cleanups, it’s workable. It’s pretty good at writing Rust.
Using Devstral-2 with the vibe client. I’m guessing it’s in some sort of free-of-charge testing phase still, because with my yearly pro subscription, I haven’t incurred any additional token costs and have been using it quite heavily.
JiffyBagFor a company that claims to be EU focused they sure were hiring a lot in Palo Alto in the past 6 months.
I am not into that, but I’m thinking like where can you get talent for such a thing in the yurop?
There’s a lot of tech industry talent in the UK and Europe. A massive part of Microsoft 365 Copilot is built in UK, Norway and India. A lot of Google Maps is built in Australia. The talent is spread across the globe and I think because the US tech industry is very dominant there’s this illusion that the talent doesn’t exist outside the US.
Pantherina (he)Okay I did not know that. I guess it is true, I know a lot of people with high IT knowledge everywhere. Globally.
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I consider myself a skeptic, but if you really gotta use AI I think le chat is the way to do it for any european.
Le Chat is far better than GPT5 at coding, especially when not using English. I was surprised by how good it is given its smaller footprint in terms of international visibility. Furthermore, their edge model, ministral, Is surprisingly capable. Just run it offline on a small machine for a bit of fun. It’s also vision capable but I haven’t benched those capabilities on it.
French AI Company? Obviously Reuters knows English better than me, so please enlighten me how that headline is correct!
This is a somewhat common practice in headlines (in English, at least), but would not be used in normal writing. It’s similar to how headlines almost never use the word “and”, instead replacing it with a comma. If I go to Reuters’ website just now I can quite quickly find headlines about “UK rocket maker Orbex”, “South Korea crypto exchange”, and “Argentina unions”.
That said, there are also a lot of headlines (including on Reuters) that don’t do this, and I have no idea what decides when it is or isn’t applied. I can just reassure you that no, this is not you misunderstanding English, it’s just a weird convention for news headlines specifically
Is this SEO? Or some old-style SEO-like thingy?
It’s far too old a practice to be that
I could not find a proper way to Mistral as a coding agent without a corporate licence, in IDEs like Intellij Idea (their plugin even has Enterprise in the name), unlike other US LLMs, like Gemini.
Until they allow individual developers to do so easily, they are naively gate keeping Codestral and any coding relevant features.
Edit: I would gladly use their AI if it were more open for this use case.
I like that they make servers somewhere with like 99% carbon-free electricity and low water stress.