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  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    If i was a liberal who'd come out as pro-genocide and still eaten shit barely more than a year ago, I would simply shut the fuck up forever and hope people would eventually forget about it, but I guess the cocktail of "sanctimonious" and "has a humiliation fetish" these people enjoy is really potent.

    • InexplicableLunchFiend [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      The best way to address these losers is to say "Yes the pro-palestine purity leftists made you lose and we'll do it again. Republicans will win forever unless you cede to our demands of ending the genocide"

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      Yeah I really don't know what the fuck is wrong with them, then again these same worms are trying to twist the narrative to turn the Epstein files into Russiagate 2 and make it all about Putin and not the establishment democrats who are infinitely closer to Epstein

  • Rom [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Extremely telling that even after all this they're still not mad about their team committing genocide.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      You'd think they'd have figured out at some point in the last god knows how many years to reserve some of their spite for their own party that continues to spit on their faces any time they ask for something better

      Maybe if liberal politicians wanted my vote, they should be less trash

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    But what is the trolley in this equation? It’s presenting this force of oppression as if it’s a runaway phenomenon with no agency when it’s quite clearly the opposite.

    • InexplicableLunchFiend [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Capitalism kind of is an algorithm of oppression operating on its own. Replace those on top with new people and it would function identically because it has no moral character. It merely has inputs (us, our dignity, our time, our labor, the finite resources of our world) and outputs (profits, exploitation and pollution), like a machine. Nobody is at the wheel, the direction is determined by short term profits.

      Capital is dead labor, that, vampire-like, only lives by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks

    • spectre [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      The Left position is to out the brakes on the train, do your basic maintenance you fools! That's what got us here!

    • Dessa [she/her]
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      2 months ago

      Democrats lose their shit when you blame the loss of Black Lives Matter on them

        • Dessa [she/her]
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          2 months ago

          Not to mention most cities where black people live have Dem leadership

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    2 months ago

    The only good w*rlder:

    The last time this was posted, it was PugJesus, and he barely agreed to my live example of Imran Khan.

    And as a Pakistani, go fuck yourself. My democratically elected leader is in a jail going blind because American imperialism is universal amongst both parties, and Biden signed off on his removal without a second thought.

    Even more insult to injury, Imran Khan won his election against a corrupt, voter fraud heavy, and FPTP system as a 3rd party that upset the duopoly after 70+ years.

    Twice. Second time while he was in jail.

    So now all that manure you people scream about RCV for 3rd parties in the US is laid barren as propaganda from the DNC & RNC to convince you never to vote independent or 3rd party.

    Despite the fact the DNC was caught rigging their own primaries to ensure Bernie, a populist independent, would never win.

    Twice.

    Edit: Remove that Pakistani flag out of this shit excuse for a shill meme

  • purpleworm [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    .worlder has thoughts

    You could have fooled me.

    How the fuck can these people keep reposting this meme for years and not realize that making arguments on a timescale of one single election is ridiculous? Let's say you go D and accept Palestinians being slaughtered with a cutesy shrug, does that mean we are past the problem? No, obviously not, but the Dems will have more people to slaughter and you need to just accept it and always support them and derail criticism of them with this bullshit. We see right now the Dems moving further and further right on immigration, trans issues, etc. These worthless fuckers are literally just arguing for being boiled more slowly rather than have a chance of surviving.

    Also equivocating between the genocide in Palestine and most of these issues is disgusting, but they don't view third worlders as human so I don't think there's anything to be done there. I'm curious where they'd put the Cuban flag if they could be bothered to include it. Could they say with a straight face that the Dems will definitely stop it?

  • TheModerateTankie [any]
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    2 months ago

    How many fucking elections can these twerps lose before they realize "but the democrats suck less" is a shit way to get people to vote? Two years before they even have a candidate and they are telling us it's our duty to eat shit. Fuck off.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      2 months ago

      It's especially odd cause Obama did pretty well by at least lying about fixing problems.

      • TheModerateTankie [any]
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        2 months ago

        Why would they promise anything anymore? Demand nothing, expect nothing. We don't have that luxury when fascism is one election away. We just need to make sure win every election forever, which is a very reasonable and realistic expectation.

    • purpleworm [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      They don't need to win, they need a way of avoiding blaming the politicians they support, which they can accomplish by blaming teh tankies.

  • BanMeFromPosting [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    "You have to vote for my candidate or they won't win. You may have another candidate you'd want to vote for, but I wont vote for them, so they wont win, which makes them unfeasible. You have to be realistic and vote for my candidate, which is the only realistic option! Your candidate is unelectable because I wont vote for them so you have to vote for my candidate or they wont win which is why you can't vote for your candidate" and on and on and on

    Somehow "the dems wont win unless you vote for them" is an argument for the dems while "the psl wont win because everyone is voting for the dems" is not an argument for the psl.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    My real answer to this is always simple: if Bernie people had refused to vote for Hillary in 2016, instead of capitulating and teaching the DNC that they could demand votes for nothing, would they have dared fuck him over again to run Biden in 2020?

    If nominal leftists had stood firm and refused to vote for Biden in 2020, instead of capitulating and teaching the DNC that they could demand absolutely anything without fear of reprisal, would they have been bold enough to demand we vote for genocide in 2024?

    Now that so many have capitulated and voted for genocide, teaching the DNC that they have absolutely no consequences to fear from telling voters to go fuck themselves, what reason do they have to consider "progressive" opinion ever again?

    Civil rights, workers rights, slavery abolition: these things were not given by benevolent overlords as reward for obedient behavior. They were taken as concessions by a ruling class scared of the alternative.

    What fear does preemptive compliance instill? None. So what use is it in extracting concessions from a hostile party? None. You don't stop an oppressor by indulging them, you do it by terrifying them and demonstrating power.

    • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      Why do you think that Biden loosing would have taught the DNC something when Hillary and Kamala loosing didn't?

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        I don't, all of this presupposes a democratic party not inimically hostile to leftists, but liberals are mostly not ready for that conversation so this answer is my way of getting them to think about power and leverage.

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]A
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    2 months ago

    If I had editing skills I'd erase the other track, slap the lib sign to the other side of the main murder track, and slap a little sign that says [D = 🐌] and [R = 🐇 ] next to the lever.

    Then title it xXAmericaXx or something churlish

    • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Idk if it'd be worth the effort, there are libs in that thread arguing that slow genocide is still better than fast genocide.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]A
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        2 months ago

        mmm yers, death by starvation, illness, exposure, and so forth are so much better than being bombed or shot. No, ignore the fact that the end result is the same, whats important is that our horse blinders and ear plugs are protecting us from whatever our bluemaga overlords don't want us to see

        • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          What's important is that in one scenario there is less of some undefinable quantity, and that's as far as moral reasoning can be permitted to go.