RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer

From: Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 19:19:17 +0000
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer
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Hello,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:[email protected]]
> 
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Lester Caine <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I see that the vote currently has swung from yes to no for including
> > in
> > 5.6 but actually there is no option to include it even in PHP6? The
> > improvement is required, needs proper planning because of the impact
> > on many third parties, and should be planned now on the basis of a new
> PHP6.
> >
> >
> Nobody said that if rejected this can't be considered for PHP6.
> On the contrary, many of the no voters explained that they would have
> voted yes if the target version would have been 6.0.

This is not directed at you guys in particular, but this is just the latest thread to mention PHP6
so I'll say it here.  I know at least my team is frustrated every time "why not
PHP6?" is mentioned in this thread.

There is no PHP 6.  If there was this RFC would have had two simple options; merge for PHP 6.0,
merge for both 5.6 & 6.0.  The justification for the latter option being that 5.6+ would provide
a more reasonable upgrade path for 6.  It may not be meant this way, but suggesting we merge this
into PHP6 simply sounds disrespectful.  There's no point in targeting some ethereal release,
that's just a way of kicking this down the road so it can be ignored for a little longer. 
Without a plan forward to a release, even merging to Master is just another place for this to
languish.

And yes, I know there has been some (hopefully) serious discussion on PHP6 recently, but that
happens every year.  Maybe it will happen this time?  IMHO, if PHP 5 has slipped happily into middle
age and cannot fathom such change anymore, then perhaps this community should create a roadmap to a
new branch where more progressive development can be realized.

Thanks,
Steve



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