Re: [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer

From: Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 02:50:03 +0000
Subject: Re: [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer
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On 2/1/14 11:19 AM, Stephen Zarkos wrote:
Hello,
-----Original Message----- From: Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:[email protected]] On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Lester Caine <[email protected]> wrote:
I see that the vote currently has swung from yes to no for including in 5.6 but actually there is no option to include it even in PHP6? The improvement is required, needs proper planning because of the impact on many third parties, and should be planned now on the basis of a new
PHP6.
Nobody said that if rejected this can't be considered for PHP6. On the contrary, many of the no voters explained that they would have voted yes if the target version would have been 6.0.
This is not directed at you guys in particular, but this is just the latest thread to mention PHP6 so I'll say it here. I know at least my team is frustrated every time "why not PHP6?" is mentioned in this thread. There is no PHP 6. If there was this RFC would have had two simple options; merge for PHP 6.0, merge for both 5.6 & 6.0. The justification for the latter option being that 5.6+ would provide a more reasonable upgrade path for 6. It may not be meant this way, but suggesting we merge this into PHP6 simply sounds disrespectful. There's no point in targeting some ethereal release, that's just a way of kicking this down the road so it can be ignored for a little longer. Without a plan forward to a release, even merging to Master is just another place for this to languish. And yes, I know there has been some (hopefully) serious discussion on PHP6 recently, but that happens every year. Maybe it will happen this time? IMHO, if PHP 5 has slipped happily into middle age and cannot fathom such change anymore, then perhaps this community should create a roadmap to a new branch where more progressive development can be realized. Thanks, Steve
If PHP 6 isn't branched/scheduled soon, then I would be in favor of merging the feature to PHP 5.7. However I do believe this change will be a good spring board for a PHP 6 branch, and I sense that talk about PHP 6 is serious at the moment. This is why I'm don't view any "No" votes as disrespectful. Chris -- [email protected] http://twitter.com/ghrd Free PHP & Oracle book: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/php/underground-php-oracle-manual-098250.html

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