Re: [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer

From: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 03:29:36 +0000
Subject: Re: [VOTE] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Stephen Zarkos
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hannes Magnusson [mailto:[email protected]]
>>
>> - To the casual observer, the performance stats look great!
>>     ...But they are a lie. It doesn't matter how 5.5+size_t performs since 5.5
>> isn't the target branch.
>>     Maybe there have been 5.6 specific performance improvements that this
>> patch trashes when merged into 5.6?
>
> The branch/patch for this RFC is based against the master branch right now, and so that's
> what was tested against.
>

Ok. Glad to be wrong. The description should clearly mention that then.
And is still wrong, as it compares 5.5.8 against 5.6.0-alpha+size_t
then, if I read you correctly?



>> - The vote makes it look like its "now or never" (5.6 or nothing)
>>     This means people don't have to understand the implications.
>>     All they need to know is "64bit integers in PHP? Ok. That sounds logical,
>> I'll
>> vote +1".
>>     Of course people will vote for that.
>>     When you start thinking (given you have ever created an external PHP
>> extension, which minority of our normal voters have) you'll realize how much
>> more there is to this.
>
> Isn't that what the discussion is for?  Anyone voting must be following this list,
> otherwise how would they even know to vote?
>


- Following the voting feed
- Seeing a voting subject on a mailinglist
- Friend of a friend
- Twitter
- Click a link on the internet
- Boredom
- IRC
- Text message from a friend
- Billboard message from that homeless guy on the street light
- Peer pressure
- expertsexchange
- ...

Just to name some.

I have been following this discussion and just noticed the vote was
open because it was being discussed on IRC, not even on #php.pecl.
And I didn't know it would be a "5.6 or nothing" - plus 2 other
fundamentally wrong votes.
I was hoping for yes/no vote - which case I would have voted +1 and we
could work on better approach for the extensions in time for the 6.0
release which this clearly is the start of.

-Hannes


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